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  • I think they care about the attention it brings to their practices, particularly in jurisdictions outside the US where there may be more inclination to regulate them. Their anti-competitive practices in the context of their oligopoly are problematic. Their concession is what they have judged necessary to reduce the appearance of anti-competitive practices sufficiently to avoid regulatory action. Otherwise they would have gone full walled garden, as they initially intended. Not a ‘nothingburger’. Rather, an important skirmish in the ongoing struggle against their oligopoly.




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    2 months ago

    Careful. AI Slop is a strategic weapon. Criticizing it not only hurts Sleepy Joe’s feeling. It will put you on more lists than the Bing blacklist. It’s obviously an act of terrorism. Sleepy Joe might have a chat with his friend, the Commander in Chief, who might do something to stop you “just for fun”, because that’s they way he rolls.



  • Angela Lipps spent nearly six months in jail in Tennessee and North Dakota after being misidentified by Fargo police through AI facial recognition in a bank fraud investigation.

    It was July 14, the day a team of U.S. Marshals arrested Lipps at her home in Tennessee. She said she was taken away at gunpoint while babysitting four young children. She was booked into her county jail in Tennessee as a fugitive from justice from North Dakota.

    Lipps would sit in that Tennessee jail cell for nearly four months. As a fugitive, she was held without bail. Lipps learned, following a Fargo Police Department investigation, she had been charged with four counts of unauthorized use of personal identifying information and four counts of theft in North Dakota.

    Officers from North Dakota did not pick up Lipps from her jail cell in Tennessee until Oct. 30 — 108 days after her arrest. The next day she made her first appearance in a North Dakota courtroom to fight the charges.

    “If the only thing you have is facial recognition, I might want to dig a little deeper,” said Jay Greenwood, the lawyer representing Lipps in North Dakota.

    Greenwood immediately asked Lipps for her bank records. Once they were in hand, Fargo police met with him and Lipps at the Cass County jail on Dec. 19. She had already been in jail for more than five months. It was the first time police interviewed her.

    On Christmas Eve, five days after the interview with Fargo police, the case was dismissed, and she was released from jail.

    Unable to pay her bills from jail, she lost her home, her car and even her dog.

    Another life ruined by a dysfunctional ‘justice’ system, with no consequences to those responsible and no compensation for the victim. How is this acceptable?





  • I think there is a real distinction there as to how it happened and intent. But also, I think the person responsible for the agent should be held accountable either way.

    Somewhat like the distinction between murder and negligent homicide. Or maybe more like, if someone who has a dog lets it run loose in the neighborhood and it attacks a person. They might not have been there commanding their dog to attack at the time, but they should still be held liable for the attack because they let their dog loose, unsupervised and they should at least be held accountable for not maintaining control of their dog when it was in public.


  • The causes might be more or less proximate to the generation but the only ‘reasonable’ arguments I can think of are that they were mentally incompetent to know what they were doing or otherwise so negligent that they were unaware they were installing, configuring and providing power and Internet access to the agent. And in the case that they installed some device that reasonable was for some other purpose and they were unaware that the manufacturer of that device had configured it to generate hit pieces, then the manufacturer should be held responsible for it doing so.


  • It should be made clear in the law that when LLM output is published a person or other legal entity is responsible for that publication with a duty of care to ensure the output is not harmful. At least until LLMs are recognized as legal entity in their own right. And that publishing the output of an LLM without knowing what was published and deliberately deciding to proceed with that knowledge is, at least, failing a fundamental duty of care as publisher.


  • Even Scott Shambaugh writes as if there were no humans responsible:

    Summary: An AI agent of unknown ownership autonomously wrote and published a personalized hit piece about me after I rejected its code, attempting to damage my reputation and shame me into accepting its changes into a mainstream python library.

    As far as I know, every ‘AI’ agent runs as a consequence of one or more humans choosing to commit resources to install, configure and run it and those humans, therefore, are responsible for what it does. And, until ‘AI’ agents and the systems they run on spontaneously emerge and evolve from inert matter without human intervention, that will be the case. No agent does anything autonomously.

    People should be held accountable for what their ‘AI’ agents do.





  • The problem isn’t so much dependence on software from non-EU sources as it is dependence on software from profit seeking companies that, in order to maximise their profits, do all they can to lock in users and avoid interoperability and data portability. Also, to maximise profits, they are inclined to collect and sell data from and about their customers that are not essential to the software or interests of their customers. Open source software mitigates some of these problems and it doesn’t mater where the developers reside. Dependence on services provided by non-EU companies and/or hosted outside the EU entails problems but many of those are independent of the software and where it originates. They are inherent in the entities providing the service existing in non-EU jurisdictions and being subject to control by non-EU interests.