Thanks the thing, when internet folks get riled up we can have a serious impact. Redditors have always been great at this – Restore the Fourth, the SOPA/PIPA protests in 2011 – and Lemmy and kbin can be a great vehicle.

Thanks, totally agreed … we learn by doing!

They certainly fucked up, but it might well be OpenAI’s post too.

Two reasons the ongoing Reddit protests are important:

1. the protests keep the pressure on reddit and can lead to ongoing news coverage (which also keeps the pressure on reddit) . Otherwise, reddit will be able to spin the narrative “see? we told you it would just blow over and it did”

2. kbin, Lemmy, and other alternatives aren’t yet at the point where they’re ready for millions of redditors. For example, the modCoord post makes the important point that a lot of reddit’s moderation functionality isn’t accessible … but almost none of this functionality even exists yet on kbin and Lemmy. So most people aren’t going to leave yet.

Don’t get me wrong, leaving now is also a good option if you can find what you want elsewhere! But not everybody’s there yet.

#reddit #kbin #lemmy

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Thanks for the update, thanks everybody who’s helping … and great decision handing off admin support

Indeed! https://fedipact.online/

I prefer Sean Tilley’s take: John Gruber Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About

@nev Thanks!

@MyOpinion Totally agree, there’s some discussion at the end of the article on the need to improve moderation tools. Specifically for kbin and lemmy, I also talked about this in the Invest in moderation tools section of Don’t tell people “it’s easy”

@fediverse @fediverse @thenexusofprivacy

A valid concern – and a good point on the nested list item!

thanks!

I know, it’s amazing Ernest is getting any sleep at all!

Agreed, great idea. Maybe a code bounty for this?

Ernest says he’s definitely interested in accessbility – he replied when I originally posted “Don’t tell people “it’s easy”, and six more things Kbin, Lemmy, and the fediverse can learn from Mastodon”, which has a section on accessibility. But there are a heck of a lot of other priorities so boosting this would be very helpful.

Here’s a post from @weirdwriter noting that kbin’s fairly good for accessibility. but I know there are some problems – here’s a bug I filed last week.

Whoops! Good catch – thanks!

Thanks, good catch!

Thank you very much, I didn’t know about that and will add it!

Thanks! I’m not sure, it could be that he is and I just didn’t find the quotes.

To the contrary: defederation from instances in situations like this is very much in the spirit of the the fediverse. Not attaching NSFW tags to NSFW content is a major moderation fail by lemmynsfw, and restricting content from badly-moderated instances until they get things cleaned up is something that frequently happens.

Several people here are saying that the bulk of it is coming from lemmynsfw. If so then it may well be best to defederate in the short term to buy time for a better solution (like marking everything from there NSFW automatically, either by a lemmy enhancement on their end or a kbin enhancement here)