I’ve got a Fairphone 5. For Mobian we still need to add the patches for speaker audio. Then it is a usable phone. Camera works, but image quality is not yet the same as for Android, but it is slowly getting there. For now I just carry an Android phone for photos, but I expect that to be unnecessary within this year, seeing how much effort some people put into it.

Yes, jmp.chat is cool, unfortunately North American numbers, I’d love the same from the EU, if that exists.

GNOME Chatty should just work for SMS if the modem is supported.

Yeah, also keep your main phone and make a slow switch. It will take a while to find your favourite software and figure things out. You might even try several UIs and might re-flash a couple of times. Most people are not comfortable having no usable phone for a couple of weeks.

Depends on what you want. A used Pixel 3a or some other model can be very cheap and has decent mainline support.

Then get an “Android phone” with decent mainline kernel support. Pixel 3a has decent support, several SDM845 phones have decent support, some others…

Do they provide mainline kernel support or will it become trash soon after sale?

I don’t care about batteries becoming cheaper. What I care about is them becoming safer.

I had far too many sudden spicy pillows in devices this year, I’d prefer something that isn’t as dangerous as Lithium-Ion.

The C2 is just a rebranded Reeder S19 Max Pro S, a cheap Android phone from a Turkish company.

Some people even buy the phone from Turkey and flash Sailfish OS onto it themselves.

Yes, there’s no mainline kernel support. They just use the downstream kernel from the phone vendor. This also means they cannot provide security updates for longer than the device’s vendor, which in Sony’s case isn’t even much support at all.

I wish I knew what each of the Piefed compoments does.

Many free roms such as CalyxOS, GrapheneOS, iodéOS include Seedvault.

I’ve even successfully migrated between those. Some settings or pre-installed apps might be different, so you should check your settings, but all apps will be there. In my case only the banking app wanted me to log in again, seems to verify some sort of device identifier.

They could hire people to work on mainlining but also work on convincing vendors to have patches ready and then be able to support them on launch and not years later.

Yeah… That’s not even funny. That guy makes very cringy videos.

Yeah, I know, but that’s more fiddling around than using it. :p

It is indeed an unofficial build. GrapheneOS does not provide a GSI.

But the battery will. Just a couple minutes ago I had a battery of a phone become a spicy pillow in front of me, within just a couple seconds. I’m convinced it’d have blown up just a few seconds later.

Please be very careful.

Nope.

Nothing, they just refuse connection. I could use mobile data, but my home internet IP is blocked by them.

• it uses a downstream Android kernel
• it does not use a mainline kernel
• the Android kernel creates dependencies and makes it difficult to keep up to date for more than a couple years
• their AppSuport is literally Android in a container with some proprietary parts
• their apps are scarce as they need to be built for the OS (no Flatpak or any other support for the existing mobile Linux software)
• the UI and some other components are proprietary

I believe those points make clear why I see more of a future in projects like Mobian, postmarketOS, Fedora Pocketblue.