TheLepidopterists [he/him]

Okay, to be clear, in the discussion you’re jumping into, one of the interlocutors has stated that Jews are inherently genocidal.

I’m an atheist and I don’t particularly value religion but I do value people and there are many good people who do value their religion and I won’t stand for them being painted as inherently genocidal and neither should you.

There’s a time and place for nuance but I don’t know that this is it.

Some jackass once said:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.

Let’s see if he was right, you said:

You seem to think my view is that “all religious people have the same beliefs”. It’s not.

But no, here’s what I think your view is:

Are you saying that Judaism is an inherently genocidal religion/culture?

Your response?

Not any more than other religions, but yes, it’s in the book preached as the word of God and prophets. Israel is what happens when you put bronze age values in practice

Let me cut out all the weasel words for you

Yes

Yes, you think that Judaism is inherently genocidal.

Fuck you, you antisemitic trash.

There are nonreligious homophobes and misogynists and racists and trans phones. There are religious people who aren’t bigots at all.

Clearly the religion is an excuse for the bigotry and not the ultimate source of it, or neither of those would be true.

Saying that Judaism inherently inclines one to the kinds of genocidal crimes Israel is committing makes you a fucking antisemite and is clearly disproven by the number of religious Jews who have been vocally opposed to the genocide and to Zionism generally.

You don’t get to “I’m oppressed too” your way out of being called out for bigotry.

I was raised by evangelicals myself, and also went through a nu atheist phase when I was 14.

You’re a bigot and you need to grow up and put that away.

No, a ton of Israelis are secular and they support this just as much as religious Israelis, and this is clearly about land and wealth. The American government is supporting the genocide, and it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with supporting a white supremacist settler colony that functions as an unsinkable aircraft carrier in a resource rich region.

This particular person is from .ml but honestly I’ve seen this kind of rhetoric popping up a lot recently on Hexbear and it’s frustrating.

If you have hatred and contempt in your heart for all religious people, you hate and despise the global proletariat.

Label looks like this

I’m pretty sure it was Venture on an Atari.

Malt vinegar or that pepper sauce from steak n shake. Well the generic from the grocery store, but it’s the same thing.

Very unserious understanding of world politics.

Of course they’re viewed more positively in middle income than high income countries. The high income countries are all part of a global military alliance focused entirely on destroying communism and have fed their populations anti-communist propaganda for decades.

They’re one the main geopolitical adversaries of the political block that all the rich countries have formed, whereas they are investing in and helping develop poorer countries.

It is an absolute laugh though that all the countries that destroyed the Middle East over the last 30 years think China is a threat to world peace.

Peaceful revolution is when you burn 48 people alive in a building while a mob of neonazis keeps them from leaving.

Why is it necessary to cancel all consular services for Ukrainian men if they’re so eager to fight? Are you sure the bloodlust and desire for battle you’re perceiving isn’t your own?

Different ways, I usually say boo-jwah, bur-jwah is also one I’ve heard though.

OK, so China has looked out for its own interests and created an economic advantage for a fraction of its own population.

If lifting hundreds of millions of your poorest into the middle class is just naked self interest, why are Western countries so unwilling to do it? Are they stupid?

Is this the one who was crying in joy after falsely hearing that his daughter had died? How often do you have to publicly yearn for your kid’s death before you get investigated?

Yes:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

Yeah I remember seeing so many of them it was like stars near the ground. These days I rarely see more than I could count on one hand at once.

The impoverished natural world being left to our children is something that often makes me sad.