Among which historians specifically? I’m unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it’s greek orthodox ideals
Russian interest have little to do with western European interests any further then not allowing anyone else challenge their dominance. I want a free Ukraine, but after seeing how the west sees Palestine and how Ukraine was the largest money laundering front to Israel. Ontop if their refugees coming into Europe being some of the most extremely racist (which is fine but I find so hypocritical coming from the demonisation from real refugees from around the world who dont look like them)
Individual Ukrainians are decent most of the time but the Ukrainian govt can be wiped off the map for all I care