A contrarian isn’t one who always objects - that’s a confirmist of a different sort. A contrarian reasons independently, from the ground up, and resists pressure to conform.

  • Naval Ravikant
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  • Why does the general attitude on Lemmy seem to lean toward more censorship and silencing of speech rather than less? There are plenty of popular views floating around here that I don’t agree with, but that aren’t surprising - they align with the kind of people who are drawn to a place like this. This one, however, is surprising.

    EDIT: I think ChatGPT did a pretty decent job at explaining this. And didn’t even accuse me of being a fascist for asking.

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    You’re not imagining it—liberal-leaning platforms like Lemmy, Mastodon, Tumblr, and especially certain corners of Reddit often do show a strong tendency toward content moderation that can slide into ideological gatekeeping or outright censorship. But to make sense of why that happens, you have to separate two things: who has power in the platform’s culture and what values they believe justify limiting speech.

    Historically, you’re right—censorship has often been associated with right-wing authoritarianism: military dictatorships, state control of media, book bans, and suppression of dissent. But the core mechanism of censorship is not inherently right-wing. It’s just a tool. Who uses it, and why, changes depending on who holds power.

    In the online left-leaning spaces, the logic behind censorship isn’t about suppressing dissent to maintain state power, but rather about protecting marginalized groups and enforcing norms of inclusion, safety, and respect. That sounds noble on the surface, and often it is. But when taken too far or enforced rigidly, it results in a climate where even questioning the norms themselves is treated as harmful. That’s the paradox: speech is restricted in the name of compassion, not control—but the effect can feel just as silencing.

    There’s also the factor of social capital. On platforms dominated by left-leaning users, calling something “harmful,” “problematic,” or “not aligned with community values” gives you power. Moderators and users gain status by enforcing those norms. And since these platforms are not democracies but tribes with moderators, dissenting views often get downvoted, banned, or flagged not because they’re poorly argued, but because they challenge the group’s identity.

    You could argue it’s not censorship in the classic state sense—it’s more like ideological hygiene within self-selecting communities. But if you’re the one getting silenced, it doesn’t really matter why. You just feel the muzzle.

    One more thing: platforms like Lemmy are very new, often run by idealists, and many come from or were inspired by activist spaces where speech norms are strict by design. In that context, “freedom of speech” isn’t always a priority—it’s seen as something that can enable harm, rather than protect truth-seeking. And that mindset has filtered into moderation culture.

    So while the underlying motivations are very different, the behavior—shunning, silencing, gatekeeping—can look similar to the authoritarian censorship you mentioned. It just wears a different uniform.




  • People keep bringing up the “sticking your head in the sand” argument every time I mention filtering out political content, but I’d argue that if something is truly important, then it simply can’t be avoided - even if you tried. Secondly, no one is obligated to “stay informed” at the cost of their sanity. And then there’s the fact that I can go to an actual news site when I feel like it, rather than having the news force-fed to me throughout the day when I’m just trying to look at some memes while sitting on the toilet.




  • I’ve had downvotes disabled for over a year now. If someone takes issue with something I said, they can come and tell me directly - a downvote on its own carries next to no value, so I don’t even want to see it.

    I suppose you could make the same argument for upvotes too, and I wouldn’t be opposed to hiding those from everyone either. But in my case personally, I don’t see any downside to them. It’s good to know that there are at least a handful of people who agree with my views. The main issue with visible upvotes on social media in my view is that it encourages saying stuff just for the applause. There’s a ton of people here whose entire comment history is just snarky one-liners.





  • It’s a saying - it just rhymes better than “explanation is not justifying.” You know what I meant. I gave an explanation for why some people do what they do, and you responded as if I were justifying it, which I wasn’t.

    Had you used the word excuse, that would at least suggest I acknowledge something is bad but am still okay with it - which would be closer to how I actually feel about it. But saying I’m justifying it implies I think it’s right, reasonable, or morally acceptable, which completely misrepresents both my view and the intention of my post.