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lol, those darn homophobic racist fascists!

Wait you think Budweiser didn’t suffer financially from sponsoring DM? What metric are you using to determine financial loss?

That’s a very difficult question tbh my initial thoughts are less than 1 month. Abortion should not be used as birth control and obviously abortions that are necessary for either mothers safety or under dire circumstances like rape/underage etc… or severe instances of fetal health should all be legal much later as anatomy scans for babies health are needed to identify many serious deformities.

Abortion is legal and killing babies is celebrated.

Being in favor of infants right to life and women’s choice to make decisions about their body until they make the choose to share their body with another human is criminalized.*

Ftfy. Imagine being in favor of killing babies and thinking the side that wanted to kill infants because “women’s rights to kill babies even after birth in California” somehow trumps babies right to life isn’t an atrocity comparable to slavery.

Very true, limited OS support kills most devices eventually, sadly there is only so much you can mandate as many apps and programs will stop working on old OS as they are updated. What should be criminal is apple patching old OS too purposely slow them down.

Doubtful since those are not required for the life/longevity of the tech.

That is 100% false. Please do some research before commenting.

There’s the ad hominem. Out of curiosity how do you determine if someone or something has a consciousness, how do you feel about people on life support that are clinically brain dead? How about people in a coma?

I call it an “argument” because it is a very standard and typical “argument” made when debating abortion. Yes we are all clumps of cells and if you google “debunking clump of cells argument” you will find much more intuitive and thoughtfull responses.

“In the United States, more than one half of pregnancies are unintended, with 3 in 10 women having an abortion by age 45 years 1. In 2008, 1.2 million abortions occurred in the United States, of which 6.2% took place between 13 weeks of gestation and 15 weeks of gestation, and 4.0% took place at 16 weeks of gestation or later 2 3. Only 1.3% of abortions are performed at 21 weeks of gestation or later.”

From a quick Google search, so 1.3% of the 1.2 million 2008 abortions would be 15,600. Viability is generally ranged around 20+ weeks, I think google says 24ish, some premature babies are born earlier but are significantly more rare the further you get away from 20+ weeks.

Look into the statistics of age ranges for foster care/adoption, I think you will be very surprised at the data. But unfortunately regardless of how many children are left in poor life circumstances because of a failure by the government to give adequate incentives to promote fostering/adoption as well as funding to foster care organizations that does not change the morality of killing a healthy baby that would, if left to nature, be born. As I responded to another person, want and convenience does not dictate morality. Just because we don’t have the perfect solutions doesn’t mean we can stop playing the game.

That’s completely fair and very possible, but I do disagree morally that it’s better to have an abortion than to bring a baby into the world that isn’t wanted. Want should not dictate the viability of life nor the concept of basic human right to life. Most times the right thing isn’t easy or even what we want, but that should not get in the way of doing what IS right. Should there be better foster care systems and increased funding for both systems and families willing to foster/adopt? Absolutely. But the failure of our government to put spending where it should to assist with fostering/adoption and, as you mentioned, in education and standard of living, does not change the morality of the ending of a baby’s life through abortion.

Funny you should ask I work in a fostering program and have much more experience I’d wager with foster children both those taken from homes and those given up for adoption. However just because a child isn’t wanted and is in foster care does not mean you should be able to kill it.

I like when people use the “clump of cells” argument like that doesn’t perfectly describe all life as we know it. You sir are just a clump of cells, can I take your life because you are an unwanted clump of cells?

I disagree with your logic, it is a massive logical fallacy to say that becuase something isn’t murder now that even if it’s seen as murder in the future it wasn’t murder in the past. Slavery now is still the same as slavery in the past and past atrocities do not become humane because they are viewed through the lens of time. Now legally speaking sure, if slaves are allowed then slavery is legal, but legality does not in any way dictate morality. This begs the question why do you keep insinuating that because something is legal then it is moral?

A failure to understand or believe that abortion is murder does not make it no long a murder. For the people that believe Jews deserve to die their opinion does not change the fact that the holocaust was genocide. I also said “in the future” since, much like slavery was accepted in the past, I believe our understanding of human life will undergo change and abortion will be viewed as a murder of innocents.

False equivalence.

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