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    Average person says it’s a genocide: “It’s not a genocide! What do you know?”

    Literal expert in genocide, who’s also Jewish, says it’s a genocide and gives details why: “Of course it looks like a genocide to them! They’re always looking for genocides!”

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      What do you imagine an ‘expert in genocide’ knows more about genocide than you do?

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        An expert in the field has spent a lifetime studying, writing, debating, and thinking about the field. We can survey the course catalog at Stockton on Genocide studies to get a first taste in what a expert would be able to contribute.

        These specifically stand out as focuses relevant to our conversation today ‘Witness to Genocide, Genocide War Crimes and Law, War Nationalism and Genocide, Ordinary Evil’… tell me what is your philosophy on Ordinary Evil?

        https://www.stockton.edu/general-studies/holocaust-and-genocide-studies.html

        • GAH 2114 Perspectives on Genocide
        • GSS 2240 The Holocaust
        • ANTH 2220 Ethnicity
        • GAH 2112 Art, Politics and the Nazi Era
        • GAH 2113 Non-Jewish Victims of the Nazis
        • GAH 2119 History and Memory of Nazi Era
        • GAH 2156 History of Antisemitism
        • GAH 2319 Music and the Holocaust
        • GAH 2326 Art and the Holocaust
        • GAH 2362 The Armenian Genocide
        • GAH 3215 Literature of Genocide and Upheaval
        • GAH 3234 Holocaust Literature
        • GAH 3248 Media, Public Perception & Genocide
        • GEN 2238 The Holocaust and Children’s Literature
        • GEN 2308 Children of the Holocaust
        • GIS 3418 Witness to Genocide
        • GIS 3601 Seminar on the Holocaust
        • GIS 3658 Women and Genocide
        • GIS 3659 Genocide, War Crimes and Law
        • GIS 3660 The Impact of the Holocaust
        • GIS 3662 Will Genocide Ever End?
        • GIS 3665 The Great War and the Armenian Genocide
        • GIS 3666 The Holocaust in Film and Literature
        • GIS 3667 Families in Genocide: History and Memory
        • GIS 3671 The Holocaust and the Christian World
        • GIS 4482 Climate Change, Conflict and Genocide
        • GIS 4641 Approaches to Auschwitz
        • GSS 1057 War, Nationalism and Genocide
        • GSS 2190 Ordinary Evil
        • GSS 2196 Race and Nation in History
        • GSS 2216 Holocaust and Genocide Denial
        • GSS 2248 Business and Nazi Germany
        • GSS 2328 Native America and Genocide
        • GSS 2353 America and the Holocaust
        • GSS 2432 Civic Mindfulness in the 21st century
        • GSS 3172 Ethnic Violence and Nationalism
        • GSS 3211 Refugees in the Modern World
        • GSS 3212 The Rwandan Genocide
        • GSS 3240 Holocaust and Genocide Education
        • GSS 3278 Study Tour: Holocaust
        • GSS 3946 Holocaust Resource Center Internship
        • HIST 2117 Modern Germany
        • HIST 3615 Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin
        • HIST 3616 History of the Third Reich
        • LITT 3206 Literature after the Holocaust
        • LITT 3318 Literature and Genocide

        Raz Segal appears to have done lots of research of the societal bystander effect, where a genocide can happen without anyone getting involved…

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          You gave such a thoughtful well crafted response to a person who is clearly being a troll. But thank you for that, at least you provide good reading materials.

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            I try not to think of them as trolls, more like explain it like I’m five users. Imagine most of the internet is basically sugar hyped toddlers with the attention span of goldfish, and a rough grasp of the English language.

            Explain it like I’m 5, is probably still too high a bar. :)

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              You can think about them whatever you like, doesn’t make them any less trolls. Also they want to get a reaction out of you, and all you are doing is feeding that.

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          That’s a long list, but is there anything in there on genocide you couldn’t figure out yourself?

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            All of it, the context, the implications, the patterns…

            I am not as intelligent and intuitive as you, I have to do research practice, and communicate before I can compete with an expert in a field.

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          That’s a long list, but is there anything in there you didn’t figure out yourself?

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            I’m clearly not as gifted and as well read as you, I have to do research before I know a subject.