• dsemy@vlemmy.netEnglish
    1332·
    1 year ago

    Fuck Gary Bowser and Team Xecuter in general, he doesn’t deserve the punishment he got but I feel no sympathy for him.

    Read up on how they stole GPL’d code from other Switch hackers for their closed source SX OS, and then had the fucking nerve to charge for it.

    Piracy is one thing, but what they did hurt the Switch hacking scene, for their own profit.

    • Ilandar@aussie.zoneEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t say no sympathy.

      Gary suffers from Lymphedema in his left leg, starting just below the kneecap down to the ankle.

      Lymphoedema is pretty awful, I feel bad for anyone living with it.

    • jtk@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      53·
      1 year ago

      I don’t know, if I put out GPL software, I wouldn’t give a fuck if it got used to fuck over Nintendo without following all the GPL nonsense. They took the legal risk of going up against Nintendo, I sure as hell didn’t take any risk writing code. Them profiting a bit isn’t the end of the world. No one was going to make any money staying within legal limits anyway, nothing was “stolen”.

      Edit: Just to be clear, all I know about Bowser is based on the parent comment. Maybe he’s a bigger POS than the example given but, from that, doesn’t seem like a major villain.

  • arc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    431·
    1 year ago

    Isn’t he basically screwed for the rest of his life though? Having to pay some of his wage to Nintendo

    • 404CameranotFound@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
      531·
      1 year ago

      Most of his wage. 14.5 million docked from his paychecks for the rest of his life. There’s not much more info in how much will be docked from his pay, as in a percentage or flat cost

      Edit: I read more into it. It’s 25-30% of his paycheck goes to Nintendo.

      https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/04/bowser-free-from-prison-still-owes-nintendo-14-5m-for-switch-hacking/ See at the bottom

      He will die owing Nintendo tens of millions of dollars. Fuck Nintendo

      • MaxMouseOCX@vlemmy.netEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        Regardless of your opinion of the guy, feel like financially fucking him into the ground for life shouldn’t be a thing… Sure punishment is in order, but what he got is a financial life sentence - it doesn’t feel right.

      • RolandTheJabberwocky@kbin.social
        227·
        1 year ago

        I mean it sucks but whats the alternative? Life in jail? He did those things and did cost them 65 million, I’m never one to defend corporations but he is a criminal and deserves some kind of punishment.

        • Solivine@lemmy.world
          251·
          1 year ago

          Money is made up, I doubt his actions actually cost them 65 million. If they did - so what? Taking that out his wages will never get them that amount of money back, ever. That is a ludicrously large amount that will never be reached, they just want to ruin a person’s life.

          • TheCraiggers@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            10·
            1 year ago

            I don’t agree with the punishment one bit.

            But it was never about getting their money back. Instead they just wanted a life-ruining sentence and large number to give to the media to scare people into not fucking with Nintendo.

            Nintendo knows they’ll never see even one million of that 65. Hell, they’ll probably never even make enough to cover the lawyer fees. They don’t care as they’re playing the long game. They’re trying to prevent the next Bowser before it happens. Which won’t work, but they’ll never understand why.

        • jtk@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          8·
          1 year ago

          He didn’t cost them 65 million. That’s a pretend number made up by soulless lawyers. If people could actually do that much “damage” to corporations, we wouldn’t be so beholden to their whims.

        • GregorGizeh@lemmy.world
          118·
          1 year ago

          You’re never one to defend corporations, except apparently when you do.

          Ignoring the fact that not getting to make money Nintendo had wanted to make isn’t the same as losing money, how is this person ever supposed to pay that money back? They can’t reasonably expect to see that money ever. All they are doing here is literally financially ruin a man for the rest of his life, it is completely ridiculous such a sentence is even legally possible.

          So they essentially won the right in court to keep a person poor for as long as they live. Because they lost out on projected income. Why can’t I sue the fuck out of someone because my projected income of a gorillion dollars isn’t actually coming in?

            • GregorGizeh@lemmy.world
              22·
              1 year ago

              Throw him in jail for a few months, give him a painful but reasonable fine (something mid 5 to low 6 figures) that he can possibly afford to pay off, and then leave it be ffs.

              The rich and powerful steal literal billions of public money, cheat their way out of paying their fair share in taxes as a hobby, and they don’t get close to such a sentence ever. Why is this low to mid tier huckster deserving of indentured servitude for the rest of his life when people who cause economic damage and steal public money get off with a resignation, a severance package and two months house arrest?

              • RolandTheJabberwocky@kbin.social
                1·
                1 year ago

                Sounds like the problem is lack of enforcement then right? Making the punishment a slap on the hands only makes it easier for rich to get away with their theft. If you have a problem its not woth his punishment but rather the lack of equality in the enforcement.

                • GregorGizeh@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Even in a fair justice system the punishment would be extreme in proportion to the crime. He caused the made up number of a global corporate giant to be a bit smaller than they had imagined.

                  I find the whole premise ridiculous, society or in this case an individual doesn’t owe a company its profits. If a person can be sued over this, then why don’t they sue Sony over competition? Why can’t I sue someone because my projected income isn’t what I wanted?

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          33·
          1 year ago

          For an example, I used an emulator to play try Pokémon Arseus (however that’s spelled). I had very little desire to play it in general, but I did want to see what they did with it. It was garbage. I never would have purchased it, especially since I would have had to purchase a Switch too. Did that “cost them money?” Absolutely not. They likely include that in the supposed cost though.

    • Stovetop@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      And when the president of NOA’s last name is Bowser, too, all sorts of fanciful scenarios are just coming to mind.

    • BraBraBra@lemmy.worldEnglish
      301·
      1 year ago

      I don’t have too much sympathy for the guy. I mean if you’re stupid enough to try and profit off of piracy that brazenly, that’s what you get. If I know your real name you fucked up big time.

    • Kissaki@feddit.deEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      If 30% of his paycheck goes to Nintendo, does that also apply to donations?