• PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net
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    1 year ago

    I hear what you’re saying, but the reason it took me until the reddit blackout to join lemmy, even though I’d heard of it right after the API pricing was announced, was because I was paralyzed by choice and FOMO. What if I join an instance that gets defederated, or defederates, from something I enjoy? I have to either make a separate account over there or never see that content. Look at what just happened with Beehaw. If I’d stayed on lemmy.world (the first instance I joined), I’d be shit out of luck because half of what I’m subscribed to is Beehaw. The instance I’m on now has (so far) not defederated ANYTHING, which for me is a good thing, since it leaves my options completely open, regardless of whether I intend to use those options or not. It still doesn’t protect my instance from BEING defederated, but there’s nothing I can do about that. That type of uncertainty and FOMO needs to be addressed if the fediverse is going to continue to expand.

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      1 year ago

      You are right that there are downsides. But my main concern is load balancing. Part of the reason lemmy.world has been cut off from Beehaw is BECAUSE too many people joined that one instance and now it is out of control.

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        1 year ago

        The question is, are they generating enough content without that external source that it wasn’t felt much? If that’s the case, then it shouldn’t matter. If it isn’t, then people will leave and go to where the content is. Frankly speaking, my thought is that the federation should only be on as a backfill or last resort- if you’re unable to generate content and discussion organically, import someone else’s discussion.

      • PrinceHabib72@vlemmy.net
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        1 year ago

        Okay, but the same thing would have happened if they all joined Beehaw directly, or were spread out among many many instances. Part of Beehaw’s logic was “Well, a disproportionate amount of moderation had to be done to lemmy.world so we defederated”, but isn’t that simply because there are more users on that particular instance? If, for example, we assume every single lemmy.world user joined separate instances and behaved the exact same way, would Beehaw have defederated all of their instances? If not, then the response wasn’t the correct one, in my opinion. What happened is that Beehaw saw their mod work increasing, and nuked a large portion of their active userbase (federated users from non-Beehaw instances) to cut it down to try to maintain the culture they’re trying to build. Unfortunately, I think all it will have done is throttled their growth and Beehaw will become an isolated instance with no large communities on its own, because the communities that were there (that lemmy.world was participating in) will just be recreated on different instances.