Without getting into an endless debate about various terms and subterms, you can surely appreciate that describing self-defined ‘anarchist’ achievements as ‘communist’, while they faced counter-revolutionary action from ML-Communists, in a thread about the differences between Anarchism and Communism, is at best muddying the waters
Anarchism was once called ‘Libertarian Socialism’ but I ain’t gonna go into a thread about American Libertarianism and call the CNT an example of Libertarianism in action
You appear to be conflating communism with Marxist-Leninism/Stalinism. The quote from Federica Montseny is using communist as shorthand for the Stalinists who undermined the revolution at the time
I’m merely using the terms as commonly used by contemporary sources. I understand that not all Communism is Marxist-Leninist; I also find it unhelpful to try and categorise every leftist movement based on Socialism as a form of Communism based off a hypothetical final ideal of worker-controled Statelessness
you can surely appreciate that describing self-defined ‘anarchist’ achievements as ‘communist’, while they faced counter-revolutionary action from ML-Communists, in a thread about the differences between Anarchism and Communism, is at best muddying the waters
I disagree, I think it’s useful to detangle the term communism from the authoritarian dictatorships that called themselves communist (if anything, I think the compass in the OP is itself muddying the waters), in the same way that it is useful to detangle the term socialism from the Nazis which called their party socialist despite not being that at all (though that connotation is far less strong in the public consciousness compared to Communism and ML/Maoism)
However, Yliaster specifically asked if communism requires a state, as they likely had that common conception of communism being linked to authoritarian states. I do not think it would be helpful to further entrench that conception by saying “Yes, communism does require a state. Anarchism is a different thing.” When that is not true.
I understand the usefulness of referring to stateless communism as socialism to avoid the connotation with ML’s, especially among certain company who may shut down at the word communism (I sometimes even refer to Anarchism as Libertarian Socialism, depending on the crowd I’m talking to), but in the case of my response to Yliaster, it would not have made sense or brought any extra clarity to use those other terms, though I will admit I should’ve clarified that Anarcho-communism is a thing (but the video I linked to in my first comment clearly explains it was the Anarchists that achieved a socialist society in Spain, and explains how the stalinists betrayed them)
Without getting into an endless debate about various terms and subterms, you can surely appreciate that describing self-defined ‘anarchist’ achievements as ‘communist’, while they faced counter-revolutionary action from ML-Communists, in a thread about the differences between Anarchism and Communism, is at best muddying the waters
Anarchism was once called ‘Libertarian Socialism’ but I ain’t gonna go into a thread about American Libertarianism and call the CNT an example of Libertarianism in action
I’m merely using the terms as commonly used by contemporary sources. I understand that not all Communism is Marxist-Leninist; I also find it unhelpful to try and categorise every leftist movement based on Socialism as a form of Communism based off a hypothetical final ideal of worker-controled Statelessness
I disagree, I think it’s useful to detangle the term communism from the authoritarian dictatorships that called themselves communist (if anything, I think the compass in the OP is itself muddying the waters), in the same way that it is useful to detangle the term socialism from the Nazis which called their party socialist despite not being that at all (though that connotation is far less strong in the public consciousness compared to Communism and ML/Maoism)
However, Yliaster specifically asked if communism requires a state, as they likely had that common conception of communism being linked to authoritarian states. I do not think it would be helpful to further entrench that conception by saying “Yes, communism does require a state. Anarchism is a different thing.” When that is not true.
I understand the usefulness of referring to stateless communism as socialism to avoid the connotation with ML’s, especially among certain company who may shut down at the word communism (I sometimes even refer to Anarchism as Libertarian Socialism, depending on the crowd I’m talking to), but in the case of my response to Yliaster, it would not have made sense or brought any extra clarity to use those other terms, though I will admit I should’ve clarified that Anarcho-communism is a thing (but the video I linked to in my first comment clearly explains it was the Anarchists that achieved a socialist society in Spain, and explains how the stalinists betrayed them)