I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible.
I was in my early 20s. I remember that day well. I was caught up in the fear and frenzy of everyone around me as an impressionable young liberal… and I still didn’t wish genocide on anyone.
Did uh, you not live through the same timeline I did? I was 14. I had the mental faculties one would expect from a 14 year old. I probably could have been calmed down and shown the right way of things. But I wasn’t. Because Americans weren’t. The initial response to the attack was shock sorrow and fury. And revenge was a common theme that was happily pushed by literally everyone. That’s why we don’t remember the people who pushed for war. We remember the few people who spoke out against it, even though it cost them their careers in many cases.
Americans can handle the shock and sorrow part of the equation. Americans have always struggled with the last one. We don’t forgive a lot of things. And the fury we can exact on our enemies is unrivaled. We conquered the world, in so many words, when they blew up our boats in the 40s. Go back and we exacted bitter revenge on indigenous people whenever they ambushed our settlers.
What about what I said is unamerican? Honestly the question is what liberal vault did you emerge from that separated you from our timeline?
Don’t confuse me speaking about reality as justifying it. I don’t justify my actions or those who influenced me. It was wrong. And I had to learn that the hard way growing up. But i am speaking about it as it was. You don’t get to change the past, you can only be honest about it and work to correct it when it comes around again.
The Israelis will commit the war crimes we only wish we could have this early after the attack. They will invade and end up fucked in a long term occupation with no real goal but a lot of house to house fighting and innocent civilians dead. Shit who does that sound like.
They’ll only succeed in giving birth to the next generation of even more extreme terrorists. The Middle East is just that much more unstable. We drone on towards unending chaos.
It’s turning out that the golden years of the 50s through tbe 2010s were the high water mark of human civilization. And we spent it bickering and smoking cigarettes.
Biologically, I’m sure that changed. Otherwise, not so much. I think the “adult in the room” emotionally peaked there before being entrusted with the keys to power and being the adult in the room making the hard decisions and getting shit done.
I don’t think this is going to be a pleasant read if you’re already starting with a Reddit-tier opener like that.
I read the rest. You’re not making a very good case for speaking for everyone, then or now, when you aren’t just discrediting my own lived experience being barely older than you were at the same time but also posting your rage filled nonsense in the other reply chain.
I was waiting for you to post what I said broken into parts where you respond to everything separately.
First off you outed yourself. Hilarious. Second of all. Oh nevermind there isn’t a second part.
Lol.
Being a condescending asshole while trying to speak for an entire population about how wishing for mass murder was cool and good actually instead of at the least learning something from that instead of trying to rationalize it away is apparently beyond you.
And we spent it bickering and smoking cigarettes. Sick.
I’m starting to doubt if you’re even able to comprehend that other people exist with different perspectives and outlooks than you do. Solipsism definitely fits the arrogance you’ve presented in your replies so far.
You have such an important bloodsoaked neoliberal colonial job that you’re replying to each of those replies. Maybe if it means you’re too distracted to drone strike another hospital for a few more hours, I’m pleased to keep it up.
By all means, keep telling us about your Vincent AdultMan tough guy colonialism job.
If you’re going to give internet tough guy speeches, at least wear matching footwear so you don’t trip over your own passive aggressive sarcastic putdowns. The two flavors of internet tryhard don’t mix well.
I was in my early 20s. I remember that day well. I was caught up in the fear and frenzy of everyone around me as an impressionable young liberal… and I still didn’t wish genocide on anyone.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Did uh, you not live through the same timeline I did? I was 14. I had the mental faculties one would expect from a 14 year old. I probably could have been calmed down and shown the right way of things. But I wasn’t. Because Americans weren’t. The initial response to the attack was shock sorrow and fury. And revenge was a common theme that was happily pushed by literally everyone. That’s why we don’t remember the people who pushed for war. We remember the few people who spoke out against it, even though it cost them their careers in many cases.
Americans can handle the shock and sorrow part of the equation. Americans have always struggled with the last one. We don’t forgive a lot of things. And the fury we can exact on our enemies is unrivaled. We conquered the world, in so many words, when they blew up our boats in the 40s. Go back and we exacted bitter revenge on indigenous people whenever they ambushed our settlers.
What about what I said is unamerican? Honestly the question is what liberal vault did you emerge from that separated you from our timeline?
Don’t confuse me speaking about reality as justifying it. I don’t justify my actions or those who influenced me. It was wrong. And I had to learn that the hard way growing up. But i am speaking about it as it was. You don’t get to change the past, you can only be honest about it and work to correct it when it comes around again.
The Israelis will commit the war crimes we only wish we could have this early after the attack. They will invade and end up fucked in a long term occupation with no real goal but a lot of house to house fighting and innocent civilians dead. Shit who does that sound like.
They’ll only succeed in giving birth to the next generation of even more extreme terrorists. The Middle East is just that much more unstable. We drone on towards unending chaos.
It’s turning out that the golden years of the 50s through tbe 2010s were the high water mark of human civilization. And we spent it bickering and smoking cigarettes.
Sick.
so that didnt change did it?
Biologically, I’m sure that changed. Otherwise, not so much. I think the “adult in the room” emotionally peaked there before being entrusted with the keys to power and being the adult in the room making the hard decisions and getting shit done.
I don’t think this is going to be a pleasant read if you’re already starting with a Reddit-tier opener like that.
I read the rest. You’re not making a very good case for speaking for everyone, then or now, when you aren’t just discrediting my own lived experience being barely older than you were at the same time but also posting your rage filled nonsense in the other reply chain.
Being a condescending asshole while trying to speak for an entire population about how wishing for mass murder was cool and good actually instead of at the least learning something from that instead of trying to rationalize it away is apparently beyond you.
I’m starting to doubt if you’re even able to comprehend that other people exist with different perspectives and outlooks than you do. Solipsism definitely fits the arrogance you’ve presented in your replies so far.
Ooof a swing and a miss.
I appreciate that you said something else that time except “I am actually laughing now I promise I am the adult in the room respect meeeeeee” again.
Yeah no I mean it’s cool you and another guy have replied to me like 5 times each. That was certainly a choice you made.
You have such an important bloodsoaked neoliberal colonial job that you’re replying to each of those replies. Maybe if it means you’re too distracted to drone strike another hospital for a few more hours, I’m pleased to keep it up.
By all means, keep telling us about your Vincent AdultMan tough guy colonialism job.
I couldn’t even finish clowning on you before you responded again. Yikes my guy.
If you’re going to give internet tough guy speeches, at least wear matching footwear so you don’t trip over your own passive aggressive sarcastic putdowns. The two flavors of internet tryhard don’t mix well.