• RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip
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    Would anyone like to run a statistical analysis of the number of gay characters that have been present in Disney movies, or really movies in general?

    They’re forcing gay characters on us! Help I’m being oppressed! Chill the Fuck out and watch literally 99 percent of all movies that have ever been made if you’re worried about being underrepresented.

    Let’s sit down and watch all of the movies that feature a white savior ‘knowing what’s best’ for poor and minority characters. Look at their unbridled altruism! They don’t have to associate with those pesky poors but they choose to do it on account of their saintliness! Get the fuck outta here.

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      According to out.com there are 17 and most of them have the representation of either it being a backhanded reference to them being queer or being on screen for all of 3 seconds. Oh lawd jesus. So oppressive.

      Just a bunch of whiny people who are so incredibly insecure with their own sexuality that they think someone else could turn them gay. Probably because they spend more time than they want to admit fantasizing about sucking cock.

      Sorry. As a gay dude I am just so phenomenally tired of hearing the most represented group on the planet whine about being “under-represented” or having to be “forced to watch gay people, THINK OF THE KIDS” when shit like Boss Baby is created where you have a literal infant lusting over women.

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        Just do a deep dive on all the super Fucking uncomfortable 80s and 90s tv shows and movies where it’s totally acceptable for an adult to have a sexual encounter with a child. It’s sold as a gag or the adult ‘ struggles with their urges’ or whatever. Totally normal, haha funny.

        Imagine if there were a movie like Leon the professional that featured a gay man or a transgender person. The world would lose its mind and string up the director for child abuse.

        I’m in full support of lgbt characters that are ‘normalized’ and treated like everyone else. It’s such a non issue it’s crazy to me that it’s even a concern in anyone’s mind.

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          Even from a conservative perspective it’s fucking stupid. Your job as a parent is to help your kid learn how to navigate the real world, which SURPRISE has gay people in it.

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            My sister had a little meltdown on Facebook about the beauty and the beast remake when it came out, because gasp it has two guys dancing in it for all of 2 seconds, at the very end of the movie.

            She literally said “how am I supposed to explain that to my kids?” and apparently “with words, if they bother asking” wasn’t the answer she wanted.

            I have far more knowledge of her activities in highschool and college than she thought. I could easily get 7 ex-girlfriends of hers to answer on her social media page so everyone she’s pandering to can have an answer from an openly gay person how to address openly gay people. (hint: normal. You treat them normally.)

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              I was showing my nephews and niece pics of me with my ex once because she didn’t visit with me and my niece asked to see pics.

              The friend that introduced us is gay, and I had a pic of all of us during gamenight with him and his ex. My niece asked who his ex was, I couldn’t remember their name, so I said “that was his boyfriend” to which the kids were surprised, and asked a couple questions, which I answered in a very basic, kid-friendly manner. Just the matter-of-fact manner in which I’ve always explained stuff to them.

              Well that was enough to send my SIL flying into the living room with a bible to go over verses that talk about how it’s sinful to be gay. I sat there holding my tongue, and I could see the confusion on their faces like “he was just telling us about his friend”.

              I waited until she was done to tell them that another reason I’m not a Christian anymore is bc I don’t think who my friends are is wrong. (Which ofc brother and SIL got upset at later)

              And in the conversation I had with my brother and SIL later on, they couldn’t see how me talking about my gay friends differently to my straight friends or avoiding saying someone was gay if it came up was an issue. These people live in a twisted reality of their own creation, it’s frightening.

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            My problem is the stereotypes. Have a strong women she’s a lesbian, a girl who likes sports a lesbian. Gay man is over the top flamboyant. They might be representing but it still seems stereotyped.

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              Oh 100% that’s an issue esp with Disney movies I feel like, but in general I find that there’s a lot of just bad stereotypes that get away with masquerading as “gay humor”, or the fact that a character is queer is just shoehorned in later, but plays no bearing on the character.

              Anecdotally I’ve gotten back into Apex Legends recently, and LOVE the representation in that game. One of my mains, Fuse, is stereotypical Aussie manly man who loves explosives, and just so happens to be pansexual and very affectionate with his nb partner. They’re a genuinely enjoyable couple without any of the traditional gay/queer stereotypes found in other media, it’s so refreshing.

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          The world would lose its mind and string up the director for child abuse.

          The director of Leon the Professional should’ve unironically been strung up for child abuse.

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          Luc Besson man, Leon was way more pedo on script but he had to pull back while filming. And the fifth element too, Leeloo was essentially a baby/toddler in an adult woman’s body so everyone wanted a piece of her.

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            It’s Hollywood. Think about how we now know like every major rockstar from the 70s thru the 90s was openly having sex with teenagers. Now look at what we have uncovered about the rape based economy of movies and tv. These guys were raping men women and children with impunity for decades. It’s no wonder that their films would reflect that.

            Up till now and likely still today, if you wanted to be successful in hollywood you weren’t getting a seat at the table until they got exactly what they wanted. Try to resist and watch as your career went up in flames. Ashley Judd remembers.

            It’s not surprising at all that this time period was all just an extension of that. Working child rape into movies was just them expressing themselves.

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              The director of the jeepers creepers series is a convicted pedophile who raped his 12 year old star during filming. Francis for Coppola continues to be his friend and funds his movies

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        I don’t get it either. My brother-in-law is like this. And he refused to take his kids to see Buzz Lightyear because of its “political” nature. I was a dumbfounded when I heard that. To think that representation is just some nebulous political aim.

        At this rate, we should just consider any media with a kiss in it “political media.”

        And I even grew up with this dude in the early 2000s. He didn’t seem like this before.

        I try to forget about the guy, but it’s kind of hard because he won’t let me see the nieces because I’m too “liberal”.

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          When morons say something about a “political nature”, it’s just code for briefly mentioning (and then not instantly condemning) anything about a character that doesn’t fit into:

          Straight white cis Christian household with the oldest male the sole breadwinner and the oldest female barefoot and pregnant and tending to their (at least 2) kids’ needs, and keeping house while still doing her “wifely duties” for him, all while being in the kitchen.

          They hate immigrants and anyone different from them in any way. They tolerate them if they stay where they came from.

          Anything else they disagree with is a political issue, because an extreme version of their religion is their political party, do anything they disagree with means God hates it, and their party will vote against it, and the normal people will vote for it, thereby making it a political issue in an ass backwards way.