• lobut@lemmy.ca
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    19 days ago

    I usually just assume people around me are left leaning and progressive.

    I went to London to visit the satellite office and one of the top guys there was having a rant against vegans. I chimed in a bit and said, “well, you can say what you want but vegans are at least doing good for the environment”.

    The guy was like, “I don’t believe that”

    I thought he was joking, so I said, “haha what, you don’t believe in climate change?”

    I should have never said that. Ten minutes of him furiously ranting about nonsense.

    I got great quotes such as: “you know what climate change is? it’s when seasons change” and also “we should be eating more animals because it increases the carbon in the world and is good for us”.

    Fucking hell. When I got back to the Canadian office and told my coworkers about him, the others were telling me how much of a prick he was – and they didn’t know anything about the climate change denial shit he was into either.

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      19 days ago

      Wait, you’re saying someone who is confidently incorrect happens to be an asshole? Shocking!

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      18 days ago

      You can easily bitch about vegans and not be a climate change denialist.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      18 days ago

      I believe climate change is real, but I don’t believe being vegan is an effective method to combat it, so I don’t think vegans are doing good for the environment

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      18 days ago

      The fucked up part is: Science has already come up with a magical solution, plenty in fact; we’re just failing to implement them. Renewables, and especially solar, are developing at an incredible pace and in a better world would already be the main source of energy worldwide. The only technology missing from this equation is the guillotine.

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    18 days ago

    I found it funny, in a morbid way, when the then conservative Australian Prime Minister announced 4 floods in Queensland each only weeks apart. I’m paraphrasing here since I can’t be bothered looking up the numbers. The first was once in 500 years, the next; once in a century, then one in 50 years and then once in a decade. The timelines just kept getting shorter! Eventually they’d be once a week floods, then once a day!! But it’s totally normal and definitely not climate change.

    Hard to believe that some people still take morons like that seriously. You’d really have to be in a state of complete denial to look at the 4th flood, listen to the PM and think “boy am I glad the Greeny tree huggers aren’t in charge.”

    • 0x0@lemmy.zip
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      18 days ago

      some people still take morons like that seriously.

      The morons who vote for them.

  • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    My conspiracy theory is that billionaires like Musk and Gates believe in climate change but want it to happen because it will primarily genocide black Africans and the billionaires will not suffer from it.

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      18 days ago

      it will primarily genocide black Africans the poor and the billionaires will not suffer from it.

      There, FTFY

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        18 days ago

        Musk doing Roman salutes and Gates focussing on birth preventions in Africa instead of feeding the poor seems a bit too coincidental to me.

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      18 days ago

      They all have bunkers in New Zealand, in their minds, if it gets bad enough, it’ll simply mean they have to go live in compounds/bunkers near each other, and come drink each other’s wine all day. Many folks have pointed out how this will not work - the people who secure them, who fly the helicopters and jets, who make the food and carry the guns - they’re human beings too, and at the very last minute, they will act in their own best interests. So that seat on a jet for Bill Gates might just end up being filled by the pilot’s wife instead.

      But they don’t care, magical thinking run amok.

    • InputZero@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      I think the 0.1%'s racism comes from the lack of action rather than a deliberate action. They know climate change is real, they know it’s accelerating. They know their actions are accelerating it and that it will mean suffering for an uncountable number of people. What they’re betting on is that by extracting as much wealth as quickly as possible they can protect themselves and their loved ones from the worst of it for as long as possible. If a lot of people need to suffer to make that happen, that’s a sacrifice they’re willing to make.

      It’s just that all the systems that the 0.1% use to accumulate their wealth and power are also racist systems. Which they are totally happy to take the power and money but aren’t willing to do more than a token demonstration against the system that makes them. Cause that would put themselves at risk of losing something, and that is a thought the super rich cannot handle.

  • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml
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    18 days ago

    Not to throw stones, because I live in the USA, but it really sucks to learn that Chile just elected a climate change denier, too.

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      18 days ago

      Yeah. The hope living here is that we are just The Ass-hole Of The World. People in general aren’t suicidal piece of shit lemmings, it’s just Americans, and maybe, just maybe, if we can stop ruining everything so fucking rabidly for ten god damn seconds, if we can stop being world historic fuck-ups and keep our bullshit contained, the other 7.7b people on earth will have a chance to start fixing shit.

      And finding out any substantial group of them are the exact same pieces of shit just with less power feels incredibly doom, incredibly demoralizing.

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      18 days ago

      Partially true

      But that stuff is railroads canals aerostats. Machines to recycle cars and jets. Guns to exterminate the wealthy. Local artisnal manufacturing.

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    18 days ago

    I live in SWEDEN and its 10C(50f) in the middle of december. How the fuck does that even work? This is seriously wrong.

    • Naz@sh.itjust.works
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      18 days ago

      “42” the machine said, after long deliberation.

      The crowd gasped.

      “You would need to have begun mitigations to prevent catastrophic consequences 42 years ago

      The crowd’s face fell.

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    19 days ago

    This is a twit of a comic. Why include the twitter guy? Did he make the comic?