• voodooattack@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t this basically the banana cultivation problem of computing? Linux has pretty good genetic diversity with mutations and speciation happening on the regular, MacOS doesn’t have that variety, but is a genetically engineered abomination that’s regularly gene-edited to patch problems out.

    As for Windows, I’d say it’s the Cavendish banana of operating systems.

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      I just absolutely love this comment, especially the dismissive bit at the end. Damn fine nerding my friend.

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      Sadly enough, the same is applicable for regular programs…

      If it were only this hard for bad stuff, you might have a point, but this also being an issue for good stuff is why linux is such a PITA to use…

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        Yeah, but it makes me feel smart when I get it working even though I’m running off the back of 100s of other users that are actually smart and listed out the steps online.

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          Honestly that does make you smart, as far as computer users go. Being able to distinguish good advice from malicious advice is something a lot of people can’t do, otherwise those scam sites hawking ‘tools’ (malware) to fix some random windows problem wouldn’t exist.

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            Though tbf when searching for linux help you’re more likely to actually get it, and it may not work or you may have to kinda translate it to your distro, but it’s less likely to be that type of malicious tool you speak of on windows.

            Meanwhile those “tools” are either SEOd to hell and back so the only thing that comes up when searching is them instead of some useful stackoverflow page, or windows docs post-w8 themselves tell you to fix every problem by reinstalling.

            Actually that’s a BIG reason I finally swapped to linux, for years it had been “but idk how to fix shit like I can on windows” until that tipping point when it became “well at least I can find a fix for linux, windows just keeps saying reinstall and the internet says ‘use this totally not sketchy proprietary and sometimes expensive software.’”

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      Nah, most things people try to run work no problem.

      It sounds like trying to install dependencies for libraries for R on Linux. 🤮

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      Yeah SteamOS is celebrated for its contributions to gaming, but good luck running something that’s not in flathub

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        I installed some games from GOG on the steam deck. The hardest part was trying to figure out how to make them show up in steam library. For software that requires modifying the system, you’ll have to jailbreak the steam os. It’s quite straight forward and irc it took me about 30min to enable sudo and install ydotool for autoclicker.

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          Well yeah, it’s built to run proton which is wine to emulate windows games. I’m talking about using it as a Linux machine outside of purely steam / windows games. Try to install megasync, for example

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          From my exp, the mojo installer (the GUI installer most GoG games’ Linux versions come with) does not require sudo

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      I actually had a version of linux fail to run on linux recently: software updates were failing because the newest OS version updated some directories and file structures, and downgrading would require doing manually.

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    Reminds me of the joke that github should just hire malware developers to fix the install process of every random git repo that requires pages of install instructions and an entire book of troubleshooting

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    Remind me of a time long ago when someone requested my help on setting up a project.I Tried setting up project on my system and there was malicious code that would collect and send data to the attackers, but it failed to read data because it was trying to access the C drive.

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    That is a bit out of date. There are professional cyber crime groups now, doing very sophisticated malware.