• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    Communism, in the sense of the future stateless, classless, moneyless society, hasn’t been reached, but socialism absolutely has been and exists in several countries today. Communism is necessarily post-socialist.

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        3 hours ago

        To the contrary, socialism has already been proven good, and the foundations of socialism, ie public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, already work astoundingly well. Communism as the fully collectivized mode of production beyond that has been more affirmed by the existence of socialism.

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          Ehh… I wouldn’t say socialism affirms communism. At least far less than it condemns capitalism.

          Nobody currently alive is going to accept private property entering a gray area where if you produce with it, suddenly it’s not your property any more.

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            That’s not really how socialism or communism works, though. It isn’t a legalistic moral code, but the adoption of collectivized production at a global scale.

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            Nobody currently alive is going to accept private property entering a gray area where if you produce with it, suddenly it’s not your property any more.

            Speak for yourself, there are plenty of people alive that would be fine with there being no more private property. Personal property isn’t the same thing, and it’s fine producing something with it, there would be tools available to all to rent out or use, what’s so wrong with that? In fact tool libraries already exist, as do worker owned co-ops.