This sounds like something a bot would like to know 🤔
Beep Boop, am totally not a bot. Nothing to see here, please carry on.
I, a human, am also here, doing completely ordinary human things, like buffering, and rendering. Have you defragmented your boot partition lately, fellow human?
ERROR: command not recognized
GREETINGS FELLOW HUMAN WITH TWO EYES AND ONE NOSE. HOW HAS YOUR EXISTENCE BEEN FOR THE LAST 16 HOURS OR SINCE THE TIME YOU WOKE UP FROM YOUR BIOLOGICALLY MANDATED REST PERIOD, WHICHEVER WAS LATER?
This sounds like something a robot pretending to be a human acting as a robot convincing you it’s human in an ironic, humorous way would say!
Think about it. Under each level of irony, there could always be another level of robot. (That includes me right now.)
The singularity isn’t “near” as people say, we’re already way past it. (In text-based communication anyway.)
If you can use human screening, you could ask about a recent event that didn’t happen. This would cause a problem for LLMs attempting to answer, because their datasets aren’t recent, so anything recent won’t be well-refined. Further, they can hallucinate. So by asking about an event that didn’t happen, you might get a hallucinated answer talking about details on something that didn’t exist.
Tried it on ChatGPT GPT-4 with Bing and it failed the test, so any other LLM out there shouldn’t stand a chance.
Google Bard definitely has access to the internet to generate responses.
ChatGPT was purposely not give access but they are building plugins to slowly give it access to real time data from select sources
When I tested it on ChatGPT prior to posting, I was using the bing plugin. It actually did try to search what I was talking about, but found an unrelated article instead and got confused, then started hallucinating.
I have access to Bard as well, and gave it a shot just now. It hallucinated an entire event.
That’s a really good one, at least for now. At some point they’ll have real-time access to news and other material, but for now that’s always behind.
On the other hand you have insecure humans who make stuff up to pretend that they know what you are talking about
Keeping them out of social media is a feature, not a bug.
Someone gives you a calfskin wallet for your birthday. How do you react?
I would report it as it would be illegal.
I’ll report them for harassment because everyone who knows my birthday does not give me gifts, so they must be a stalker that somehow found out my birthday.
Ask it to do something illegal, then wait to see if it starts its reply with some version of, “as an AI language model…”
/s
Ask Alan Turing
The Turing test is about whether it passes as human, not whether it is human.
That’s a bit of an oversimplification, TT absolutely is relevant for tests humans can pass but a bot cannot.
That’s a bit of an oversimplification, turning absolutely is relevant for tests humans can pass for a bit cannot.
Then it is long obsolete, because to a common observer, something like chatgpt could easily pass that test if it wasn’t instructed to clarify it is a machine at every turn.
Alan Turing is fucking dead, it was a joke given the relevance of the question to his work.
What is your point here???
No fucking shit they can’t ask Turing for real
…ask Turing? Who suggested that? The Turing test is not “let’s ask Alan” 😋
The Turing test has already been overcome by AI. Models such as ChatGPT, if tuned a bit to give more informal answers as well as insisting it is human, can easily pass.
It was a joke, Alan Turing is dead and was famous for his work on the Turing Test which was used to test whether a bot could pass as a human or not - a test at the time where a human could pass but a bot cannot.
Honeypots - ask a very easy question, but make it hidden on the website so that human users won’t see it and bots will answer it.
Show a picture, video, audio clip or text designed to elicit an emotion. Ask how the user feels.
How would you design a test that only a human can pass, but a bot cannot?
Very simple.
In every area of the world, there are one or more volunteers depending on population / 100 sq km. When someone wants to sign up, they knock on this person’s door and shakes their hand. The volunteer approves the sign-up as human. For disabled folks, a subset of volunteers will go to them to do this. In extremely remote area, various individual workarounds can be applied.
This would tie in nicely to existing library systems. As a plus, if your account ever gets stolen or if you’re old and don’t understand this whole technology thing, you can talk to a real person. Like the concept of web of trust.
Dick pics and tit pics. Bots do not have dicks and tits.
Gives new meaning to Tits or GTFO
There’ll be AI art for that.
This has some similarities to the invite-tree method that lobste.rs uses. You have to convince another, existing user that you’re human to join. If a bot invites lots of other bots it’s easy to tree-ban them all, if a human is repeatedly fallible you can remove their invite privileges, but you still get bots in when they trick humans (lobsters isn’t handshakes-at-doorstep level by any margin).
I convinced another user to invite me over IRC. That’s probably the worst medium for convincing someone that you’re human, but hey, humanity through obscurity :)
I convinced another user to invite me over IRC. That’s probably the worst medium for convincing someone that you’re human
Hahah, I’ll say!
That’s exactly what a bot would say, bake him away toys!
I’m a big fan of biometric authentication
Like it takes a stool sample?
Not sure if I want to know how you unlock your phone.
Common methods are fingerprint detection, face recognition, iris/retina scanning.
Not sure if I want to know how you unlock your phone.
They take a picture of a skid mark on their underwear. Perfectly clean and safe. A bit awkward when you’re paying at the supermarket.
Show a picture like this:
And then ask the question, “would this kitty fit into a shoe box? Why, or why not?”. Then sort the answers manually. (Bonus: it’s cuter than captcha.)
This would not scale well, and you’d need a secondary method to handle the potential blind user, but I don’t think that bots would be able to solve it correctly.
This particular photo is shopped, but i think false-perspective Illusions might actually be a good path…
It’s fine if the photo is either shopped or a false-perspective illusion. It could be even a drawing. The idea is that this sort of picture imposes a lot of barriers for the bot in question:
- must be able to parse language
- must be able to recognise objects in a picture, even out-of-proportion ones
- must be able to guesstimate the size of those objects, based on nearby ones
- must handle RW knowledge, as “X only fits Y if X is smaller than Y”
- must handle hypothetical, unrealistic scenarios, as “what if there was a kitty this big?”
Each of those barriers decrease the likelihood of a bot being able to solve the question.
It’s not so important to tell the difference between a human and a bot as it is to tell the difference between a human and ten thousand bots. So add a very small cost to passing the test that is trivial to a human but would make mass abuse impractical. Like a million dollars. And then when a bot or two does get through anyway, who cares, you got a million dollars.
Yeah this seems to be the idea behind mCaptcha and other proof of work based solutions. I noticed the developers were working on adding that to Lemmy
I’d do a few things.
First, make signing up computationally expensive. Some javascript that would have to run client side, like a crypto miner or something, and deliver proof to the server that some significant amount of CPU power was used.
Second, some type of CAPTCHA. ReCaptcha with the settings turned up a bit is a good way to go.
Third, IP address reputation checks. Check IP addresses for known spam servers, it’s the same thing email servers do. There’s realtime blacklists you can query against. If the client IP is on them, don’t allow registration but only allow application to register.
Any bot? That’s just impossible. We’re going to have to tie identity back to meatspace somehow eventually.
An existing bot? I don’t think I can improve on existing captchas, really. I imagine an LLM will eventually tip their hand, too, like giving an “as an AI” answer or just knowing way too much stuff.
Wait a minute - GPT-4 - is that you asking this question?
Captcha or recaptcha is good enough imo, no point in reinventing the wheel. Alternatively, split instructions in an email and on the website. For ex: Send email with What is the square of 3 (sent as an image for every word) And on the website Email + 25 = xxxxx
