I’m a bit surprised to see so many torrent posts. Are most people still using Torrents? Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
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What’s the problem with torrent?
Honestly nothing at all, I just prefer the speeds and reliability of Usenet (though I pay for that).
Private trackers have great speed and reliability as well. I’ve been using sonarr and radarr for years but have never bothered with Usenet due to the added cost. They all work great with torrents even though they were originally designed for Usenet.
I enjoy torrents, searching and deciding which is the best quality + storage combo is right for me is the fun part
I’m not. What are sonarr and radarr and why do you recommend them?
Sonarr and radarr manage downloads for TV and movies in a nice way for Usenet and actually torrents as well. You can set up quality profiles and choose which shows and movies you want to download and they will grab torrents/nzbs that meet your preferences, automatically start them in your torrent app or Usenet downloader, and then organize them in folders with appropriate metadata for Kodi/Plex when the downloads complete. They automate the process very nicely.
Edit, I’m a Usenet guy if that wasn’t already clear lol
How is Usenet for privacy compared to torrents, e.g. if a usenet service you are paying for is compromised at some stage are they likely to be able to identify you based on payment data for example?
That’s cool. I’ll check it out.
They search indexers and send to downloaders. You can set up a whole *arr suite to automate everything.
Neat. I’m going to look into this. Thanks.
Not OP but: they are apps to schedule automatic downloads. Like Star Trek Strange New Worlds but don’t wanna go every week and download it manually? Set it up in Sonarr and when you wake up the new episodes are waiting for you. Radarr is the same for film, prowlarr for aggregating torrent trackers all in 1 spot, bazarr for subtitles, and there’s a few others. Can also be set up with usenet in addition to torrents.
is prowlarr better than jackett? Is it wise to invest some time to migrate?
Yeah I switched after Jackett kept having issues with RARBG before they shut down. The biggest change is the fact that adding a tracker to Prowlarr will automatically add it to radarr, sonarr, and the like rather than having to duplicate everything manually yourself.
Jackett is for trackers that don’t have a native api or similar but Prowlarr can likely handle most of what you use today.
I did, it was very little time to invest, and it’s pretty cool that it integrates to sonarr & radarr and sync’s your configuration from a central place. Also the web UI seems to have more information and stats if you ever need.
Thanks for the info!
Both these give you a simple way to search for things you want. They use IMDB and the like to give you a big list of results. You add what you want to your collection and in the background they scurry off to torrent sites or usenet and downloads it. Then they name everything nicely and stuff then in your Plex library.
You can set them up to use specific torrent sites. Download specific qualities, or more likely an order of qualities by preference and all sorts of other tweaks.
Thanks :)
Torrents. I don’t really find Usenet worth the money. I can get most of the stuff I want on public sites. Some others I can get on private trackers. Never really felt the need to use Usenet. And as others have pointed out, the arr apps work great with torrents.
And honestly, I find it a little scummy to pay for content to people who don’t own them. I don’t think piracy in itself is unethical, but I if you take money for stolen content, that’s not cool in my book.
I get what you are saying about paying someone who doesn‘t own the content.
However I‘d argue that you are not paying them for the content, but just for hosting it on their servers. So its more like a tool, as is your VPN if you are torrenting. And most people wouldn‘t mind paying a VPN just to pirate content.
Usenet, I agree, might take you some time to get invites to the good indexers, especially if you don‘t want to pay immediately, but in the long run it‘s definitly worth it.
I havn‘t played arround with torrents for quite some time, whats the most popular setup for torrents atm?
Not sure about the most popular setup, but I use a docker container that has
qbittorrent-noxandgluetunin it. It’s connected to some other containers with arr apps and such.And I think it’s a bit different than just paying for VPN. You can use VPN for many other reasons. But here, you know exactly what you’re paying for. I’d never pay to use any private tracker for the same reason.
I use the Starr apps with torrents. I kinda just forget all about it since it all just works.
Torrents… Fast, free, and easy
my man
What is fast for you? On usenet it maxes out my internet speeds. Can’t get any faster than that. And I pay like 5 bucks a month for usenet. Fully automated, max speeds. It’s worth it.
I just paid $70 for a 3-year PIA subscription to mask my torrent usage from my ISP. So, an average of a little over $2 per month. Well-seeded movies only take about 10 minutes to download, more obscure stuff admittedly takes longer. Also, torrent streaming exists, so you can start watching even faster if that’s your thing.
Admittedly, I’m not familiar with Usenet or how it works. I’m just saying that torrents are cheap, fast, and easy. Do you have a crash course on how to use Usenet? I’m curious.
You can find tutorials out there but the jist is.
- Subscribe to a suenet provider. I use Tweaknews, but there are some that can get as cheap as $3 per month. Especially around black friday, the plans go on sale.
- Get a downloader such as sabnzbd or nzbget and configure the provider in it.
- Get an indexer. Much like torrents, you need an indexer to grab release from. I use Nzbplanet, but there are lots of others like Nzbgeek.
- Then its a lot like torrents. You download the nzb file off the indezer and import it into your downloader. and it will max out your speeds. For example, all my content averages a download speed of 57MB/s (that is mega-bytes not mega-bits). And I have it throttled. It will max you out.
Once you get that far, then you can move on to the best part, How easy it is to plug in sonarr and radarr. then everything just auto-downloads for you and you dont have to do anything.
To me, if you are using a VPN to torrent, great, I have one too for obscure stuff. But most people are far better off using Usenet. It is way safer and faster, and is easier to automate.
So who’s hosting all of this movies? Who are you actually downloading from?
- 57 MB/s isn’t especially fast. I have plenty of torrents “max” my connection, you can easily download a popular torrent at gigabit speeds because they’re often well seeded. But the speed really isn’t that important to me. The difference between a 5 minute download and a 10 minute download is insignificant.
- Torrent downloads can be automated. If you have a favorite uploader you can easily subscribe to their releases.
- I don’t see how Usenet is inherently more secure than torrenting with a VPN…You’re just downloading files from somebody else’s server, it could easily get taken over and become a honeypot, or the owner could serve you malicious files. Both torrents and usenet are potentially vulnerable to that sort of thing.
- Torrents have the advantage (and disadvantage) of being decentralized. As long as a torrent has seeders it’s nearly impossible to take down. You’d have to individually attack each seeder, and there might be thousands.
My point was every single thing i download maxes out, the 57MB wasnt the point. Not every torrent will max out. Only the well seeded torrents, and on public trackers it will not max out. I’ve tried. Private torrents sure, but unless you have a seedbox, you’re ratios are going to be all out of whack. I do both Usenet and torrents, I’m well aware of all the advantages of torrents, and im well aware it can be automated. Usenet is just easier. No symlinking to maintain ratios.
And of course its more secure. 1st off, no VPN disconnects. Second off, point me to one single case where someone has been prosecuted for downloading off Usenet. Most of us here are probably from r/piracy, and see every day the dozens of “I got the letter” posts from torrenting. I’ve never seen a single letter from usenet.
Torrents are really great for obscure stuff that is really hard to get though. That’s pretty much all I use it for.
I’m a member of one private tracker; it’s private enough that I don’t need a VPN while downloading/seeding and I have had no issue maintaining ratios.
For public trackers, no ratios required. For VPN disconnects, you just need a torrent client that properly isolates to a single network connection, which effectively operates as a kill switch. There are also VPN clients with kill switches, but I tend to not use those because doing it in the torrent client is easier and more reliable.
Re: prosecution, I’m pretty sure nobody has been prosecuted for simple downloading in a decade. The feds only go after major torrent tracker owners, the ones doing the distributing. The dreaded letters are just that: letters. They’re a scare tactic from your ISP, they don’t actually prosecute or even kick you off your plan; they just make you watch a little video on how piracy bad.
Again, Usenet is only “secure” if you can fully trust the owner of the server you’re connecting to. It would be trivial for a government agency to set up a honeypot or take over an existing server and turn it into one. The reason they don’t seem to care is probably because fewer people are on Usenet; they’re going for the bigger fish.
And the reason they don’t care is because it’s so much harder to get people on it. Hence, it’s safer.
Sure, most of this is true, but only for some people. The letters still come, and people absolutely do pay damages for torrenting, especially in Germany. Meanwhile none of this is true for Usenet, there simply is no misconfiguration you can make that will result in a letter. Sure it could but at this point it’s never happened. With torrenting it can and does happen all the time. No letters, no scare tactics, no ratios to maintain (I get that you dont have to but most struggle). No secret club you have to get into. No variable speeds.
I totally agree that torrenting is awesome and it used to be the way i did everything as well. But after getting on usenet I was completely shocked and I’m never going back.
Not OP but well seeded torrents max out my server’s ethernet at 80 MB/s (bytes not bits)
Torrents can also max out your speed if there are enough seeds, unless you live in a country where your ISPs are allowed to throttle specific types of traffic or something. Or I suppose if you have 10 gbit downlink then you prolly won’t max it off a torrent.
Idk what you mean by fully automated. If you mean sonarr, radarr and the like, they work for torrents too.
I might very well try usenet when I get fiber in my current location (haven’t had it in over a year, it sucks, don’t recommend) and a server for the arr suite, but in general I like my piracy being free lol
All I know is I don’t ever have to care about well seeded torrents, or maintaining ratios on private trackers, or getting letters from VPN disconnects. The 5 bucks a month is worth it just for that.
With a proper setup, which is not hard to do, you shouldn’t be getting any IP leaks or copyright letters. Just be sure your VPN has it’s firewall up and clients are set to only use the network adapter.
And yet, people still do. I don’t, I use a docker container for torrenting. With usenet there is no misconfiguration you can make to get nabbed. It’s safer.
Fair enough, none of that has ever been a thing for me.
Okay, extremely obscure things have dead torrents, but I’d wager you won’t find many of those ultra obscure downloads on Usenet either. I dunno about any letters either, I suppose my country is a bit too small for anyone to care, because I’ve been torrenting for nearly 20 years with no issues - and so have many of my friends.
The ratios I’ll agree with you on. It’s a damn competition on private trackers, really annoying because everyone else wants to seed too. I just use public trackers.
Ratio on private trackers isn’t really a big deal as long as you’re the kind of person that can keep a couple hundred GB worth of things seeding close to 24/7. Aside from actual ratio(the thing your torrent client reports), they tend to have a system that rewards having things seeding, whether anyone actually connects to you or not, that you can use to boost “ratio”. There’s also usually some options for acquiring some content without it counting against you, like freeleech(download data isn’t counted in your ratio) for low seeded or new torrents, or discounted/refunded credit for extended seed times, or seeding large amounts of data. Aside from the first few months in a new tracker, ratio isn’t a big issue.
My experience (and I’ll admit that I’ve only used a private tracker since rarbg went down) is that you can only get some seeding done within the first few hours of a new torrent going up, after that there’s just so much competition and so few people downloading, you might get a gigabyte of upload a week on a 50 GB freeleech torrent. It might just be specific to TL.
I do have a ratio nearing 10, but my upload buffer is still small enough that I don’t want to download anything non-freeleech lol
Honestly had no idea usenet was still a thing. I’m old. Old enough to know usenet and have used it back in the day. But young enough to switch torrenting and not ever really learn another way
Now I have to look up some info!
Usenet costs money, that’s why I don’t use it.
same. I already pay for VPN. I can’t be bothered to figure out how usenet has changed in the almost 20 years since I last was on it.
Torrenting with a seedbox for me. I’m aware of Sonarr/Radarr and other automation tools but I don’t feel like I have the need for them. Some part of me enjoys the manual search and management. Never touched Usenet though it’s in the mental “maybe try later” bin.
I’d recommend giving Sonarr and Radarr a try at least. Setup is pretty straight forward but it goes way in depth if you want to work out the little intricacies of managing your media.
Setting them up via docker is highly recommended.
Torrents are free. I use both, but it’s always a choice whether or not to renew Usenet.
I only ever used Usenet back in the day when my college threatened to shut off my internet if there was any more p2p traffic.
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Of course we are, hell that’s what I use with my torrents. They aren’t just for usenet lol
I still use torrents sometimes but almost exclusively use Usenet these days. For Plex/jellyfin servers it’s pretty unbeatable.
Torrents are mostly stuff like audiobooks from audiobookbay and myanonymouse and games from repackers like Fitgirl.
I mean usenet costs money and torrents don’t.
Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?
Sounds like you yourself aren’t aware of their capabilities, if you’re presenting a false dichotomy of torrents or *arrs
I just switched to Usenet after using torrents for the past couple of years. The difference is night and day
