You do realise that firing at the authorities first will give them perfect justification and legitimises their use of force? This is literally what Trump is waiting for. It is a blinking game and see who blinks first. You don’t give the ruling corrupt power any more legitimacy.
How does letting a cop shoot you, give you “legitimacy”? Self-defense is not some corrupting infectious disease, and a refusal to be bullied is honorable.
I know you won’t read this, but at least others should know the religious basis of these pacifist arguments:
How does letting a cop shoot you, give you “legitimacy”?
So far no police or soldiers are carrying lethal weapons. But once they do…
Again, Trump is looking for reason to use lethal force. As soon as any of the protestors shoot the police, he can invoke the Insurrection Act as per authority given to him by the constitution. You or anyone don’t want to give him reason to do that and legitimise his deployment of force. If it comes to it, YOU wait to be given the reason to use violence on authority. You gain the moral high ground for not provoking lethal violence in the first place. Therefore, it is not pacifism. It’s not pacifism to do peaceful demonstrations. Pacifism implies being completely passive and completely rejecting violence in any shape or form. It is not pacifist to both peacefully protest but being prepared if violence erupts. Violence is only the last resort. There is a reason why the court favours someone who was the first to be physically assaulted, despite that person being a complete jerk for being verbally abusive in the first place. You would to prefer to be the person provoked to self-defense, than be the provoker to someone. You lose the public court of opinion for provoking physical violence first. That public court of opinion will shift to the side of Trump if any of the protestors shoot and kill the police or soldiers.
No one said anything about voting. But if peaceful means does not work, let them fire the first shot and then fire back.
If you let them fire first, then you die. Why let them harm you at all?
This is kind of pointless because I know you don’t have the patience to read an article anyway.
You do realise that firing at the authorities first will give them perfect justification and legitimises their use of force? This is literally what Trump is waiting for. It is a blinking game and see who blinks first. You don’t give the ruling corrupt power any more legitimacy.
How does letting a cop shoot you, give you “legitimacy”? Self-defense is not some corrupting infectious disease, and a refusal to be bullied is honorable.
I know you won’t read this, but at least others should know the religious basis of these pacifist arguments:
So far no police or soldiers are carrying lethal weapons. But once they do…
Again, Trump is looking for reason to use lethal force. As soon as any of the protestors shoot the police, he can invoke the Insurrection Act as per authority given to him by the constitution. You or anyone don’t want to give him reason to do that and legitimise his deployment of force. If it comes to it, YOU wait to be given the reason to use violence on authority. You gain the moral high ground for not provoking lethal violence in the first place. Therefore, it is not pacifism. It’s not pacifism to do peaceful demonstrations. Pacifism implies being completely passive and completely rejecting violence in any shape or form. It is not pacifist to both peacefully protest but being prepared if violence erupts. Violence is only the last resort. There is a reason why the court favours someone who was the first to be physically assaulted, despite that person being a complete jerk for being verbally abusive in the first place. You would to prefer to be the person provoked to self-defense, than be the provoker to someone. You lose the public court of opinion for provoking physical violence first. That public court of opinion will shift to the side of Trump if any of the protestors shoot and kill the police or soldiers.
Talk about completely not grasping the situation
Well, are you willing to go to LA and draw the first blood? Are you even aware what Insurrection and Posse comitatus acts are?
Yes. Too bad it would be for naught because people like you are afraid to hurt Nazi feelings.
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What does that have to do with anything?
Since you are so trigger happy, are you going to LA and shoot to kill the police and soldiers yourself?
I thought so.
How’s your way working out?
If you think my way is not working, let’s see you do your way then. Go to LA and fire the first shot. Shoot and kill your first pig.
shitlib argument ensuing
All talk but not actually willing to fire the first shot.