• QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    Yeah, the instances that are most dedicated to fighting fascism and providing a safe space for lgbtqi+ and other marginalized groups are the “toxic” ones. Those are the instances that need to be contained so you can block them, huh? HMMMMMM…

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      3 days ago

      You manage to get the most lgbtq instance defederate you, in case you want you check the mirror before mmmmmmm the rest…

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        2 days ago

        We arguably ARE the most lgbtq instance that isn’t specifically about lgbtqia+ (it is about radical leftism which is inseperable from lgbtqia+ rights and liberation). And nah, my fidel-wut reaction is 100% appropriate here. What’s more, hexbear is known for taking long and difficult looks into the mirror, to a degree liberal instances could never hope to do. Our resolute dedication to rooting out and correcting misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism and even just plain unrecognized privilege is well known and easily confirmed by looking at our history. Whatever lgbtq instance defederated from us was not because of homophobia or transphobia or anything like that, but rather their unwillingness to address the chasers infesting their community and our subsequent unwillingness to tolerate that kind of behavior and keep it from eroding the safe space that has been built through hard work and the dedication especially of the many trans people that make up our community. Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqia+, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

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          Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqiat, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

          Well, I guess you can feel insulted then.

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            1 day ago

            Hey, big fan of your comments, I think you’re doing great stuff here. Can I request you do a collab with Evidence? You may not have heard of her.

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        3 days ago

        What instance was that? And Hexbear is something like 80% or maybe even 90% LGBTQ, while not being explicitly an LGBTQ instance, so what exactly does it say about us when Western, still mostly white, mostly liberal instances defederate us? That we’re suddenly queerphobic or that crackers be cracking?

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            3 days ago

            Yup, most likely. And it’s very ironic that they point to that when we got defedded over their admin trying to watch out for the interests of a moderator who would end up switching to a different instance when Ada took the same stances on pronouns that Hexbear had taken years earlier.

            • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              Assuming you’re talking about moss (the admin, not the plant), she mentioned that they didn’t try to leave because of anything due to neopronouns (and she mentioned this is the post).
              It was because of Ada moderating communities as well, and being (in her opinion), overbearing.

              FWIW, the migration was botched, and everyone’s at [email protected] now.

              Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t hexbear also block LBZ? If so, why’s that?

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                It was because of Ada moderating communities as well, and being (in her opinion), overbearing.

                Wasn’t all of that done when some of the cis members of the community were getting extremely angry at Ada for the new pronouns moderation? Like, sure, they stated it wasn’t because of the new pronoun position, but it seems pretty clear that Ada embraced a position that was closer to the hardline pro-trans position of Hexbear and it pushed a ton of people away.

                And yeah, we have them defedded because of chasers in their 196 comm making our trans users feel unsafe.

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                  Upon closer look, you guys didn’t block them: hexbear.net/instances

                  Anyway, I don’t think people were really pushed away from LBZ, it was just the 196 thing and a few people gettin banned for pissing themselves about neopronouns.

                  In any case, the 196 community wanted to stay, the alternate comm is more popular (by MAU) than the original.

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      3 days ago

      Everyone knows that’s not true. It’s laughable you even claim that. But keep trying to push that narrative anyways.