You voted, so you excuse yourself from the violence you demand of others, I get it. I just see a lot of people saying if you don’t do x,y, and z violent thing to stop american fascism you are the problem, coming from people who have likely never been in a fight.
They are saying if people couldn’t atleast put forth the effort of slowing facism down, and not now putting their life in peril to stop it, then they are actively allowing it to happen. We had a chance to stop it with civility, but were pretty much pass that point.
Speaking as someone who’s had cops intervene at a protest… I threw that first rock a while ago. Some soccer moms in San Diego yesterday ran an ICE squad out of town. Consider your excuse null and void.
Yes, unlike a lot of people I believe in damage mitigation, while working on things more at the local level, because the foundation is where change can be made. Harris was a shit choice, but it was the less damaging of the two. I now worry about myself, and numerous friends, as this administration seems to have made it its mission to kill us.
I have been active in protests, counter culture, etc full tilt since the start of Bush 2. I am no longer able to be so physically aggressive as I once was, for medical reasons. However, I am prepared, at least as much as I can reasonably be, in the case of making decisions with lead. My interest in cooking has actually allowed me to connect with the local Palestinian population, as a Palestinian owned grocery is one of the few local sources for middle eastern stuff. So I have listened to their issues, and gotten involved in stuff they are doing in the face of the genocide.
I could go on, and on, as I am getting some years on me. However, I see A LOT of keyboard warrior bullshit. I see so many calls for violence, and accusations that if you aren’t instigating revolutionary violence, you are responsible. Then I comb through their post history, and, well, it provides a lot of evidence of being all talk. Violence has been something that has affected my life in a profound way. I really, really, doubt most of these people calling for the blood of the enemies, could actually handle killing their neighbors who may be ardent supporters of this fascist clown show. Like, I really do not think most people doing this actually know what doing something that crass is like, and I believe that if it came down to it most of these people wouldn’t be able to do it.
If the midterm election is suspended with some sort of executive order, or they clearly rigged the vote, or did something to postpone it, well, as they say, soap box, ballot box, ammo box. I really, truly, deeply, hope we can break the GOP’s grasp if the midterm elections are allowed to happen legitimately. If that is the case, the US has suffered permanent damage, but there is a chance to course correct. Collective labor movements are the most popular they have been in nearly a century, along with a few other positive motions, if we can manage to elect one of our more progressive party members, maybe they can harness this momentum, and do something positive.
If not, well, a complete civil deadlock means we move beyond civil methodology. I do not want this. However, as I said, I, and a lot of people I care about, have to worry about being put in a position, if they actually achieve the cuts, and legal changes, they are pushing, where they will restructure in a way that may literally mean the death of me, and people I care about, or being put in cages, swept off to foreign prison camps, and the like.
I apologize for attacking you. I am just really, really, fed up with shit.
I hesitate to call for violence. It’s not something I think we should accept as political discourse in society. It’s not something I have the stomach for. I would much prefer to vote. I really would have love to vote for someone other than Kamala. I wrote a letter to the DNC after 2020 basically saying if they don’t change and put forward a progressive candidate then they’re gonna lose in 2024.
I’m tired of this shit too. We lost a lot in 2024, it literally will not get fixed in my lifetime, if ever. I really hope I’m wrong, and that we end up with a better progressive candidate in 2028. TBH, I’ve been thinking about running for Congress on the platform of “I’m tired of watching you all fuck this up”.
Thanks for being the bigger person here and offering the olive branch.
You need to re-read the comment.
You voted, so you excuse yourself from the violence you demand of others, I get it. I just see a lot of people saying if you don’t do x,y, and z violent thing to stop american fascism you are the problem, coming from people who have likely never been in a fight.
They are saying if people couldn’t atleast put forth the effort of slowing facism down, and not now putting their life in peril to stop it, then they are actively allowing it to happen. We had a chance to stop it with civility, but were pretty much pass that point.
When? Like, sometime in the 70’s, perhaps?
I know that, now throw the first stone, go ahead, do it
Speaking as someone who’s had cops intervene at a protest… I threw that first rock a while ago. Some soccer moms in San Diego yesterday ran an ICE squad out of town. Consider your excuse null and void.
Like I said. No respect.
And you have no idea what I have done. Ohh, you went to a protest that the cops intervened on, I was doing that 25 years ago.
Did you vote for Harris?
Yes, unlike a lot of people I believe in damage mitigation, while working on things more at the local level, because the foundation is where change can be made. Harris was a shit choice, but it was the less damaging of the two. I now worry about myself, and numerous friends, as this administration seems to have made it its mission to kill us.
I have been active in protests, counter culture, etc full tilt since the start of Bush 2. I am no longer able to be so physically aggressive as I once was, for medical reasons. However, I am prepared, at least as much as I can reasonably be, in the case of making decisions with lead. My interest in cooking has actually allowed me to connect with the local Palestinian population, as a Palestinian owned grocery is one of the few local sources for middle eastern stuff. So I have listened to their issues, and gotten involved in stuff they are doing in the face of the genocide.
I could go on, and on, as I am getting some years on me. However, I see A LOT of keyboard warrior bullshit. I see so many calls for violence, and accusations that if you aren’t instigating revolutionary violence, you are responsible. Then I comb through their post history, and, well, it provides a lot of evidence of being all talk. Violence has been something that has affected my life in a profound way. I really, really, doubt most of these people calling for the blood of the enemies, could actually handle killing their neighbors who may be ardent supporters of this fascist clown show. Like, I really do not think most people doing this actually know what doing something that crass is like, and I believe that if it came down to it most of these people wouldn’t be able to do it.
If the midterm election is suspended with some sort of executive order, or they clearly rigged the vote, or did something to postpone it, well, as they say, soap box, ballot box, ammo box. I really, truly, deeply, hope we can break the GOP’s grasp if the midterm elections are allowed to happen legitimately. If that is the case, the US has suffered permanent damage, but there is a chance to course correct. Collective labor movements are the most popular they have been in nearly a century, along with a few other positive motions, if we can manage to elect one of our more progressive party members, maybe they can harness this momentum, and do something positive.
If not, well, a complete civil deadlock means we move beyond civil methodology. I do not want this. However, as I said, I, and a lot of people I care about, have to worry about being put in a position, if they actually achieve the cuts, and legal changes, they are pushing, where they will restructure in a way that may literally mean the death of me, and people I care about, or being put in cages, swept off to foreign prison camps, and the like.
I apologize for attacking you. I am just really, really, fed up with shit.
Totally understand.
I hesitate to call for violence. It’s not something I think we should accept as political discourse in society. It’s not something I have the stomach for. I would much prefer to vote. I really would have love to vote for someone other than Kamala. I wrote a letter to the DNC after 2020 basically saying if they don’t change and put forward a progressive candidate then they’re gonna lose in 2024.
I’m tired of this shit too. We lost a lot in 2024, it literally will not get fixed in my lifetime, if ever. I really hope I’m wrong, and that we end up with a better progressive candidate in 2028. TBH, I’ve been thinking about running for Congress on the platform of “I’m tired of watching you all fuck this up”.
Thanks for being the bigger person here and offering the olive branch.