While Anglos and Westerners usually at least try to pronounce, say, Japanese names right, they don’t even bother with Slavic/Eastern European ones, especially the ones with Cyrillic letters in them, which means that they end up writing the names ending with ‘ić’, as ‘ich’, and pronounce it with K. For example, if the last name is ‘Jovanović’, they’ll write it ‘Jovanovich’ and pronounce it ‘Jovanovik’.
There are names such as Ivan, Bela or Vera, which get pronounced as Ajvan, Beyla or Veyra instead of properly and of course Stalin being pronounced as Stalin instead of Staljin.
Then DimitrescU, if I have to hear it pronounced without U one more time, I’m going to lose it… They keep saying it without U, which just makes it sound French almost as if it’s Dimitresque, how hard is it to pronounce it with U?
Then the last name Ćertić, they write it as Certic or Sertic, which is completely wrong.
And the one I saw most recently, Miloch or Milosh instead of Miloš, it’s one of the most common names in Serbia and I see it frequently written like that for some goddamn reason.
So, why is it so hard for Westoids to at least try to pronounce and write Eastern European names correctly while being able do it accurately for Japanese ones which are miles harder?
It’s written “u”, so is assumed to be pronounced “ʌ” - the “skʌ” at the end gets shortened to “sk” with a glottel stop replacing the “ʌ”. To get the “uː” sound in english it would be expected to be spelt “ue”.
Good for him.
You read most Eastern European languages languages the exact way they’re written, which means no shortening of the letters and no French-ifying or Anglo-fying the names.
Just a further proof of how much Westoids don’t give a shit unless it’s a specific language or country they like, when someone who spoke Arabic and French the entire life knows to pronounce Slavic words without an issue. But I’m not surprised nor expect them to give any considering that they always portray Eastern Europeans as either: gopnik thugs, mafia/gang members, drunk wife beaters, buff violent boxers, supervillains/dictators bent on world domination, backward villagers or at best barely competent comic relief characters, which never changed nor will ever change.
So why would you want to even try to portray some backward grey Silent Hill hellhole full of vampires, mafia, alcoholics and bears even remotely accurately?
“You say it how it’s written (no, not like that)”
Did you really type that out and feel it contributes to the conversation?
“you just say it how it’s written, but make sure you don’t say it how it’s written in another lanaguge. Some of the letters literally don’t exist in your language, but don’t worry, you just say it how it’s written.”
I said good for him because I literally don’t care about the non-Anglo non-Slav in the conversation about Anglos pronouncing Slavic names
Ultimately this rounds back to my first comment where I said you’re a chauvinist - you’re a fairly bog standard reactionary with a leftward bias who hasn’t bothered with any critical analysis of their own views before trying to change everyone else’s. You have the soul of an Anglo.
U for example exists in most languages, as do most other letters unlike Ć, Č, Ž, Đ and the rest of specific Cyrillic ones etc, so Anglos should definitely have the ability to pronounce it. Also, there is a replacement for each of these letters, just write C, Z or DZ.
I brought up the example just to show how much Anglos don’t give a shit since they won’t even TRY to pronounce it correctly, meanwhile people who never had any contact with Eastern Europe spell it better right off the bat than 99% Anglos. From my experience Greeks and Chinese also do it without any issue.
I do have a huge problem with Anglos considering the way they always depict Eastern Europe(along with some other parts of the world) and not giving a shit about it so much to the point that they can’t even be bothered to spell few letters right, half-assing the pronunciation and just you know, always portraying Eastern Europeans extremely positively every chance they get (/s). So if having a problem with that is ‘‘chauvinistic’’ and same as Anglos portraying every part of the world they don’t like in that way, changing the other cultures they way they like and wanting to insert their bullshit in other countries then idk what to say.
So as far as I’m concerned, Westoids(Anglos) should stay clear of Eastern Europe as a whole and never even try to depict it in any conceivable way because they did more than enough damage already ever since like Medieval times until today.
And is it pronounced the same in them? No.
You’re not wrong to criticise Anglos for not trying with other languages, but by complaining about their pronunciation of written words you’re actually criticising them for the times they do actually try. They get it wrong, but they are actually trying when they make those specific mistakes, because of how the English language works.
Oh stop being melodramatic, you inserted all of that yourself. If you don’t know what chauvinism is you can just say.
U is U, it’s not completely silent either way however it’s pronounced.
They don’t for certain languages. There are certain languages which they really do try to get right most of the time, but for some others they simply don’t give a shit and keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
You said I’m similar to Anglos when, I literally never did or encouraged stuff which they’re doing.
Queue has 2 u’s and neither is pronounced. It’s also silent in enough and bout. You are just proving yourself profoundly ignorant about language.
Please just look up chauvinism. It does not mean “Anglo”, it’s just something Anglos also do.
Queue isn’t a Slavic/Eastern European word.
I stated what they do, that’s chauvinism, if it’s not that, point out why would I be.
You said u isn’t silent however it pronounced, I pointed out that in English, the language were discussing, it can be silent. Not being a Slavic word is completely irrelevant.
Literally none of that is chauvinism - they are actions resulting from chauvinism, but chauvinism itself is fanatical nationalism and belief in the superiority of your culture. You believe that foreigners should magically know how to pronounce Slavic words without ever encountering a Slavic speaker, and refusing to look at the material differences in languages that cause different pronunciations. Theres no actual analysis, you’re just coming up with post-hoc justifications for why you hate Anglos and sticking your fingers in your ears when that’s pointed out. There are real reasons to hate Anglos, you don’t have to act like a child.