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  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    25·
    16 days ago

    Impossible! Why, only three days ago, the lovely Germans over on feddit.org informed me there’s no real censorship in Germany and that the only things you can’t say are “calls for the deaths of entire population groups!”

    Trust these people no further than you can throw them.

    • marl_karx@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      15·
      15 days ago

      They are lying. It sucks here, if you go on any pro-palestinian protest or voice your support for palestine you will certainly be labeled as antisemitic. The german media has created a narrative of “left antisemites” which politician then also adapted. This came after some antisemitic paroles on a demo by a small group of idek what belief of islam shouted them. Now they say all of them are like that. Basically, everyone who is against Israel is also an enemy of the German state in the furthest sense, since the wellbeing of Israel is Germany’s “reason of state” (-Scholz).

      I mean even the fines are enough to deter most people from doing any action, the strong muslim hate from many parts of the population because of racism and the terror attacks which have been used by rightwingers certainly also fuel the support of Israel because they hate muslims so much they dont care if they are being slaughtered.

      The police have even arrested jewish activist against Israel for claims that I dont remember but I think it was something made up.

      Calling Gaza a genocide is basically impossible here, and I dont know a single media outlet that has called it a genocide, only ones that defend Israel by saying it isnt one.

      This among other thing is why I only ever use this website over Tor by the way

      • marl_karx@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        12·
        15 days ago

        Even the USA has in some parts better freedom of speech laws than germany (sic!) because you can talk about Gaza all day there without having to fear a fine, like streamers like HasanAbi.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        11·
        15 days ago

        Yeah I immediately called them out and cited someone getting arrested and convicted just for saying “from the river to the sea” and they immediately started downplaying it, with shit like, “Well, they could still challenge it in the supreme court” and “Well, the mood was elevated at that time,” just absolute bullshit to try to cover their ass after getting caught in a lie. None of them even seem to care if the things they said are true or not, just so long as they can dickride Israel.

        Just one conversation with the people in that thread made me incredibly frustrated and made me want to pull my hair out, and since then I’ve been thinking, “I know there are some Germans who are comrades, but I don’t know how they do it.” Being surrounded by these sorts of people all the time must be maddening. Granted, there’s a lot of brainworms here in the US that are very frustrating to deal with, our political power is non-existent, and I envy German vacation days and stuff, but good lord.

        Good luck staying safe and sane, comrade. I’m glad some Germans are capable of being anti-genocide.