• xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    most tankies are fake… often just anti-communist propaganda….
    take a moment to consider american history, how far would they go to fuck with communists?

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      1 day ago

      it’s not hard to imagine that someone could believe there’s a moral binary, that they and their favorite country are on the positive site of that binary and that due to various reasons the way to handle those on the negative site of the binary has to be strict or oppressive or repressive or violent, for example because something something material conditions mean capitalists will always work against you, or something something the contradiction between our people and an autonomous region cannot be solved with peaceful and harmonious measures

      or if you seek revolution then obviously that is going to get violent, and because your revolution cannot be compromised you must use the strongest force and control to keep the revolution from being hijacked from the inside and turned against itself. your revolutionary purpose hasn’t been achieved yet, obviously you can’t loosen things just yet. in fact who knows who’s going to turn against you any day now, maybe you should be even harsher.

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        23 hours ago

        i’ve met a lot of communists in person, not a single one of them acts like online communists, and they all stay off those places because they’re full of shills.
        maybe i’ve just been lucky, but people being incredibly, fascistly, pro-stalin, castro and mao… it just doesn’t make sense except for shills and contrarians.

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          19 hours ago

          western marxism does place a lot of emphasis on democratizing everything, but I just think it’s not that hard to imagine that someone might have a bit of an authoritarian streak, even if they want the best for everyone. in fact wanting the best for everyone can probably justify a lot of ugly (“necessary”) ideas. also with the way the west treats socialist, communist and marxist leaders it’s not that difficult to fall into almost a left fascism, certainly a cult of personality. marxists are made into these highly alien beings, and maybe you like aliens. plus, marxist leaders were charismatic philosophers, and those are sometimes likeable traits.