Hi all,

Moving away from USA solutions I also want a good European vpn. I contracted GOOSE because it’s from my country, but their servers are spotty on mobile and I regularly have connection issues on my Linux.

I want a stable VPN, streaming and P2P enabled, from a European provider. Who has good options? Must be Linux compatible either through an app or OpenVPN/WireGuard.

Is proton a good option?

  • paperBark@slrpnk.netEnglish
    52·
    1 day ago

    Protons support for linux for all their products is dogshit and thats how you know they don’t actually give a shit about privacy. If they are happy pushing their customers to stay on windows spyware then obviously they don’t really give a shit

    • dieTasse@feddit.orgEnglish
      11·
      8 hours ago

      If you think that, you obviously do not understand Proton’s mission. I am a Linux user and I am a bit sour about their Linux support, but I chose them specifically knowing what I am getting into. They want the privacy to be available to as many people as possible. And you don’t do that with targeting mainly Linux users who are already very privacy conscious. If you want to spread some idea, you don’t go to a place where everybody already knows about it. And why do I use Proton then? Because its easy for my friends and family to use Proton. Its easier to show them the more private choices without compromise on their sides. And I am able to slowly push them further and further even beyond Proton.

      So if you made a wrong, uninformed decision, don’t take it out on Proton. That’s on you.

      • paperBark@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        12 minutes ago

        Or I’m an informed consumer who tried proton’s offering, considered it critically, and came to the conclusion that there are too many red flags that they only care about privacy insofar as they can use it for marketing. Just cause you bought their marketing hook line and sinker doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m talking about and you can dismiss my point without backing up yours.

        We aren’t talking about your grandma and grandpa who you want to “ease the transition for” in this thread, they asked for a P2P FRIENDLY VPN FOR LINUX and everyone recommends Proton, which is not.

        Proton’s mission is to make money, fullstop.

        • If you use windows over linux (or BSD): you do not care about your privacy. You can not have any form of privacy when your OS is spying on everything you do. Full stop.
        • Proton’s entire ecosystem prioritises windows at this current time. Full stop.
        • therefore if you buy into proton’s ecosystem, lured in by the advertising of “privacy”, you are incentivized to remain on Windows, because the experience you are paying for is better there, while thinking you have privacy. (This continues into what I meant by the honeypot comment, since you dismissed that as invalid as well. Luring people into more and more products under the guise of “privacy”, centralized under one company, who already supports an OS with backdoors, folds to Hollywood pressure re: p2P, etc etc so its not outside the realm of possibility that they allow gov backdoors too if they are willing to compomise their privacy values for money)

        That’s why in my opinion, proton doesn’t give a shit about their users privacy. If they did, they would do everything they could to ease the transition for their users away from US government spyware Windows. But they don’t care, cause they rake in the money, they’ve said that’s why themselves. 🤷‍♂️

        But to the OP, if you wanna try proton on linux for P2P, be my guest, i’m done trying to help people in this thread.

        Edit: fixed formatting error