Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 days agoChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlexternal-linkmessage-square133fedilinkarrow-up1838arrow-down12
arrow-up1836arrow-down1external-linkChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 days agomessage-square133fedilink
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·2 days agoPlease let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
minus-squareSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOPMlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·edit-21 day agoWe need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
minus-squareThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·20 hours agoWe have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·1 day agoAndroid is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did. And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
minus-squareangrystego@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·18 hours agoLocal alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·23 hours agoWe also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy. But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
minus-squareObi@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 day agoIsn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 day agoNope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
minus-squareRenohren@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up3·edit-222 hours agoThat was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
Please let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
We need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
We have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
Android is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did.
And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
Local alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
We also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy.
But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
Isn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
Nope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
That was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
I’d love to see it.