I know this will take some time to get used to, but I am using the Voyager app. I am confused on what local communities in comparison to the federate communities.
I’m also not sure why there are so many different apps for Lemmy because now I feel like I should be checking them all out, but Voyager is very similar to Apollo for Reddit so I feel most comfortable here.
What is an instance?
And how long will I be able to share photos? Since my account is one day old I can’t upload any pictures.
I’ll have more questions, but I can’t think of them right now, thanks in advance!
Reddit is a single website, made up of a collection of (link and post sharing) subreddits, each with its own moderators, policies and content preferences, but with one overall admin team who work for one overall boss, u/spez, with one overall aim - to make money from user generated content.
The creators of lemmy felt that the profit motive was actively harmful for this type of website, and decided to remove the single, powerful, profit-motivated owner model, so…
Lemmy is a collection of websites all running the same open source software, that globally shares (federates) all the user generated content, each website (instance) has a (local) collection of (link and post sharing) communities, each with their own moderators, policies and content preferences, but each lemmy website has their own admin or admin team, who are generally just the tech folk who decided set up the website (instance) and run it, so instead of one overall agenda that reddit has, you have many overall agendas.
Of course this sets up the possibility that different instances disagree with each other (what should count as nsfw, what’s acceptable speech, what’s acceptable moderation, which type of politics is unacceptable), and instances disagreeing definitely happens, but that’s kind of by-design to prevent one set of admins from controlling all of lemmy. Some of them defederate (stop sharing with) some of the others.
As far as I can tell, the money to run the computers on which the instances run is usually crowd sourced from (a minority of) the users themselves. Small instances are just run in people’s spare computers at home, I think. Anyone can download the software and make a new instance, again by design.
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Here is a post we made recently for new users, and it has links to some guides (infographic style)
https://lemmy.ca/post/39167034
The ‘detailed guide on how Lemmy works’ goes over the local vs federated communities, and I think the visuals help with understanding that
There’s also a guide for the apps, but the short answer is that there are so many apps because it’s very easy to make them. It’s all open and the platform is designed to make it easy to connect to. My advice is to stick to whichever app you feel comfortable with, and then if there is a feature you’re looking for then you can post about it in [email protected]. That way either someone can tell you about an app that has what you want, or the various developers will get your feedback and start working on implementing it.
As for what an instance is, see the ‘quick overview of the fediverse’ guide.
For photos, I’m not familiar with lemm.ee’s policies but it could be a bug? We don’t have as much of the “account must be X days old to participate” type stuff here. You can also always upload to Imgur or Catbox and link the image.Edit: my bad, I see the note about lemm.ee’s image policy. The Imgur thing should work in the meantime
Hopefully that helps, and I’m happy to answer any follow-up questions :) Especially if there’s something confusing with the guides, so that we can improve them
Thank you so much. I will take a look at this tomorrow in my free time! This is all so new to me despite being familiar with the apollo-esque app.
Sounds good, and that’s understandable. I think most of us went through a bit of that when we started.
There are a few key differences, but once you get familiar with them it’s smooth sailing
What is an instance?
Lemmy instances are like email servers.
Imagine my email address is [email protected]. I can send emails to other addresses on the gmail.com email server. But I can also send email to people who have accounts on the proton.me or outlook.com email servers, for example.
In the same way, my Lemmy account is on the slrpnk.net instance. There are several “solarpunk”-related communities there like [email protected] that I can post to. But I can also post to communities like this one, [email protected], which is on the lemmy.ca instance.
In the same way that gmail might block emails from a spam server, a lemmy instance might block interactions with another instance. This is called “defederation”. I wouldn’t worry about it too much, just use your account for a while to get the hang of things, but if you really want to explore defederation you can do so here: https://defed.xyz/
Oh wow. Still a tad confused but i think i get the gist. Thank you for explaining!
Yeah it shouldn’t make a difference for everyday use, after a while it’ll just become intuitive. Like, look at the following communities, they’re on many different instances but you should have access to them all:
click here for a list of communities that are NOT politics, tech, or meme -related.
Most are currently active (except for the ones with a * which were less active last I checked)
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FINDING NEW/GOOD COMMUNITIES ON LEMMY
click here for a list of meme communities
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The instance is just your provider, similar to an email provider. Yours is lemm.ee.
There are a lot of apps because it’s an open platform and people have a lot of good ideas about how to best organize things. Voyager is one of the best in terms of popularity, development, and ease of use. Stick with it for a while. Check out [email protected] in the meantime to see what’s going on with different apps.
Local vs federated communities are basically the same for starters, but you will eventually come across some technical differences that may be interesting or relevant to you in the future. Most instances are general purpose, so use the global feed for now.
Follow Communities that sound interesting. Use the sort function to see what’s hot or scaled (popular wrt size of community) to see what’s going on and discover new things.
Comment, vote, post…
Have fun, and welcome!
Thanks so much!!
Local communities are ones created at the same place you signed up.
Edit: so I signed up at sh.itjust.works, therefore if I make a community it will not be local to you, but would be to others users who registered where I did.
Unless its a themed instance I wouldn’t worry about it much.
Oh wow ok. Where do you find other apps? I was in the app store and there only a few but with little reviews.
Where do you find other apps?
Here are some suggestions: https://www.lemmyapps.com/ I suggest sorting by “downloads”.
This is super helpful, thank you! I’ve been using Boost and really love it but I’m trying Jerboa right now too and it’s pretty nice.
Thank you!!
Apps are fine, but I’ll say it… the web UI actually works.
The browser already has features I want that most dedicated apps don’t have:- Bookmarks
- Multi-tabs
- uBlock Origin
I was used to never using reddit outside of a third party app, but that’s mostly because their mobile web UI is actively hostile
Here, the mobile web UI… works.
Just a thought, might wanna give it a try.I was on it earlier today at work (i think)!
Do you use that broswer version more than the app? Sorry dumb q!
I use the Web interface on mobile and on computer all the time. It doesn’t nag you and try to push you like the reddit non-app interfaces did.
Not at all :)
I use a mobile app on my phone, and the browser on the computer.
While this data is somewhat outdated now, here is the data from a census we ran for lemmy.ca over a year ago
https://fedecan.ca/en/announcements/2024-02-10_censusResults#_3-8-mobile-interface-usage
We didn’t include an option for web browser usage that time so the numbers are likely off, but we plan on fixing that next time.
The apps have also evolved a lot since then, so I’d go off of lemmyapps.com for judging popularity
Voyager is essentially an Apollo clone. And, if you liked Apollo to begin with as opposed to other options, you’ll primary probably end up back on voyager. But there’s no reason to not try others. You aren’t obligated to, for sure, and you should wait a few days if you decide to check things out, but why not try new stuff eventually?
Iirc lemm.ee has a two or three day limit for pic uploads as an anti spam thing. So it won’t be long.
lemm.ee currently has a 4 week waiting period for image posting with a 500kB limit after that, as per their sidebar.
Much appreciated
Oh wow thats long! Lol.
https://postimages.org/ can help
Long, but understandable I think. It’s dependent on donations and sponsorships, and images in a fast growing community are server storage intensive