Blog post by Christine Lemmer-Webber, co-editor of ActivityPub: https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/

The likely answer to this is that there will always have to be a large corporation at the heart of Bluesky/ATProto, and the network will have to rely on that corporation to do the work of abuse mitigation, particularly in terms of illegal content and spam. This may be a good enough solution for Bluesky’s purposes, but on the economics alone it’s going to be a centralized system that relies on trusting centralized authorities.

  • atro_city@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    People fleeing twitter to bluesky are like frogs jumping out of one boiling pan into another pan that’s slowly starting to heat up.

    • ahornsirup@feddit.orgEnglish
      612·
      1 day ago

      So give me a Fediverse Twitter alternative that’s actually a drop-in replacement for Twitter the way Bluesky is and that is (and this is by far the most important factor) as easy to sign up for as Bluesky is. People aren’t leaving Twitter because it’s “corporate” or “enshittified”, they’re leaving because it’s the proverbial Nazi bar and they want to jump through as few hoops as possible to get where they want to go. Which is Twitter, minus the Nazi in charge and his followers.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        22·
        1 day ago

        Bingo, people don’t join Lemmy because it’s a pain in the ass to figure out how it works and if you’re unlucky your experience is shit because you joined an instance that isn’t federated with some of the major ones.

        I’ve been saying it for a while now, make the decentralization happen in the background and make the front-end appear like any other website and then you’ve got an alternative that makes sense.

      • atro_city@fedia.io
        1511·
        1 day ago

        Dude, the reason twitter is a shitty place to be is because of how it works. If you just move to another platform that does exactly the same, it will devolve into the same shithole twitter was is.

        Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic “omg, look at this person, let’s make fun of them” posts. It’s entirely too easy.

        Add to it a tiny character limit and the majority of thing people can post is flickers of thoughts and incomplete works. Forcing people to reduce their expression directly leads to information being lost and for confusion or misunderstandings to be more common.

        It is insane to repeat the same thing and expect a different outcome. Bluesky might be nice right now, but when twitter falls, the same people will just move to the Bluesky and nothing will have changed.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOPEnglish
          211·
          1 day ago

          Quote-tweets (or whatever they are called) were resisted for so long in mastodon because it leads to toxic “omg, look at this person, let’s make fun of them” posts. It’s entirely too easy.

          Bluesky allows you to block quote-tweets of your posts. That’s already a good mitigating measure for this kind of harassment.

          Another thing that Bluesky does well is blocklists. We should probably consider something similar here on Lemmy/Mbin, that would help to crowdsource moderation and reduce the workload on mods/admins.

          • Ofiuco@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            4·
            1 day ago

            Along the lists (for blocking and following), spreading the Bluesky behaviour towards trolls (don’t engage, just report and block) would do wonders… Maybe going as far as what old forums did and punish those who keep feeding the trolls.

    • Cid Vicious@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      1 day ago

      The value of social media is 100% in who’s on it. Vast majority of people neither know nor care what the fediverse is. They just know a lot of people who don’t suck are moving to bluesky.