• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Throw a rock into the FPS section of your local game store. At least one of the games you hit will allow you to play as a German soldier in World War 2.

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      20 days ago

      I said “glorifying the Nazi invasion”, not “play as a German soldier in World War 2”. These are two very different things. Why the hell do I even have to explain this?

      The game is called “Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque”. How about a game called “Bliutzkrieg Poland: Heroes of the third reich”? In what store can I buy that one?

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          20 days ago

          I’m willing to put $1000 that this game doesn’t glorify Nazis, and $100 more that it actively makes it clear to the player that while the game is played from the Nazi perspective, the game isn’t intended to glorify Nazis.

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            20 days ago

            I’ve played neither games, so I cannot comment about their contents. The second part of your comment is specifically about titles.

            “Knights of al-Aqsa”, as a title, does not have the same meaning nor implications of a your example. that would something more like “Bulldozing Israel, Knights of the Caliphate”, eventhough comparing the thrid riech to a caliphate is a stretch.

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              20 days ago

              Okay, let’s put that another way:

              Do you agree that “Knights of al-Aqsa” probably glorifies Hamas?

              Do you agree that “Panzer Corps” probably does not glorify the Nazis?

              If you answered “yes” to both questions, do you understand the difference between both games?

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                20 days ago

                Knights of al-Aqsa mostlikely glorifies Hamas, along with any other faction fighting against Israel.

                Panzer Corps probably glorifies Nazis as well.

                but it doesn’t matter, as neither of us have played any of these games, nor will we ever. My whole point was about your choice of words for the nazi example.

                “knights of al-aqsa” doesn’t have an explicit context, it comes knowledge of current events.

                “panzer corps” doesn’t have an explicit context, it comes knowledge of historic events.

                Bliutzkrieg Poland: Heroes of the third reich” has a very explicit context. The third reich specifically refers to nazi Germany.

                Your example make it seems as if you think defending Al-Aqsa Mosque is inherently an act of aggression, murder, colonial expansion, and ethnic cleansing.

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                  19 days ago

                  Panzer Corps probably glorifies Nazis as well.

                  Great. as I said earlier - I’m willing to put $1000 that this game doesn’t glorify Nazis, and $100 more that it actively makes it clear to the player that while the game is played from the Nazi perspective, the game isn’t intended to glorify Nazis. Would you be willing to take that bet?

                  Bliutzkrieg Poland: Heroes of the third reich” has a very explicit context. The third reich specifically refers to nazi Germany.

                  Sorry, but if you think “panzer corps” doesn’t specifically refers to Nazi Germany, that’s on you. The first line from Wikipedia reads: A panzer corps (German: Panzerkorps) was an armoured corps type in Nazi Germany’s Wehrmacht during World War II.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_corps

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                    19 days ago

                    I’m failing to get my point across, so I’m bowing out of discussion. However I understand your point, and partially aggree , but mostly disagreed with the phrasing.

                    cheers