• leisesprecher@feddit.org
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    15 days ago

    Read your sources again.

    The first study is about adults, not children. The pediatrics talk about banning care all together. Both address exactly not my point.

    First off, there is absolutely zero surgeries being performed on minors. This is not happening. What is happening is puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy, both of which are non-permanent

    I never implied surgery. And “non-permanent” is a euphemism. Blocking puberty for years can lead to permanent problems - like infertility.

    Actually, your entire comment kind of proves my point: there isn’t research about how kids think and care ten years later.

    As a trans person myself, I need you to understand that reticence by the cis population is dangerous for the trans population

    And you need to understand, that finding out, whether a kid is part of that population is exactly the hard part.

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      And you need to understand, that finding out, whether a kid is part of that population is exactly the hard part.

      I don’t think you fully appreciate the stigma and roadblocks associated with being trans. This isn’t something people do on a whim and the data supports it. They are part of my community when they say they are.

      The children that have self advocated enough to persistently ask enough for medical transition deserve the opportunity to do so. Like truly, think of the position you would be putting them in.

      individuals were 60% less likely to experience depression (aOR, 0.40; 95% CI, 0.17-0.95) and 73% less likely to experience suicidality (aOR, 0.27; 95% CI, 0.11-0.65) when compared to youths who did not received gender-affirming interventions.

      Blocking anyone from getting the care they say they need is reckless. It’s not yours or the laws place to put up roadblocks to deny them that opportunity. It’s not protecting kids but quite the opposite, it simply raises the risk of self harm.

      there isn’t research about how kids think and care ten years later.

      The metric of 10 years is a high bar, but the data does exist.

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        these “well intentioned but just asking questions” commenters just make me sad :( there are so. many. dangerous medical procedures with higher regret rates out there that no one logs on to the internet to yap about government regulation. why? because medical boards are fucking smart and operating under the railguards of malpractice law. believe it or not, the doctors also care about the wellbeing of your child.

        i mean gender affirming care has LESS REGRET RATES THAN FUCKING CANCER SURGERY! so where are the concerned citizens asking for government intervention for those poor folks? instead we have picked literally the most vulnerabe, hated, and young population to pit in one of the centermost political battlegrounds for concern and virtue signaling clout, chirping about a group whose number one threat of death is suicide.

        no hate to either of you. i’m just sad and upset and grateful to you for helping 1 person get educated.

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      That went from “just asking questions” to “I’m going to ignore all of the science that you’ve presented me with and be an asshole” really quick.

      I’m grateful to you for making it so obvious that it is okay to block you and never see another thing you post. Thank you.