• chuymatt@startrek.website
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    5 hours ago

    Ok. That is until the Ukraine bit. Russia chose to invade. It was made very clear in the press that the US knew what was happening on the border and gave Putin every chance to stop it Ukraine is a sovereign country and did not want more Russian influence and was courting EU membership.

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      3 hours ago

      Ukraine is getting destroyed because they happen to be a small country in between two great powers having a proxy war. Russia is the invader, the aggressor, the one who broke international law.

      But US is not naive here. This was expected and planned for a long time before 2022 and a long time before 2014. Proxy war takes two sides to tango. We’re not supporting Ukraine because of democracy and sovereignty and human rights, we’re doing it for geopolitical motives. A sort of modern Spanish Civil War. Testing out new battlefield technology before the next Great War.

      Unfortunately for the people of Ukraine the geopolitical motives and interests of the US don’t necessarily align with their interests. Like Chomsky says “we will fight them to the last Ukrainian”

      • Laser@feddit.org
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        The fact that this wasn’t a three day operation is in large part sure to the US. But your portrayal of the facts makes no sense. Nobody is forcing Ukraine to ask the US for help (except Russia). The US obliges because it does align with their interest. But in the end, all international help at scale is motivated by national interest.

        Testing out new battlefield technology before the next Great War.

        Should a nation only fight with pre-agreed equipment that is at least of a certain age?

        Unfortunately for the people of Ukraine the geopolitical motives and interests of the US don’t necessarily align with their interests.

        Well, they for sure don’t align with Russia’s.

        Like Chomsky says “we will fight them to the last Ukrainian”

        Or was it North Korean?