Edit: @[email protected] Contacted the moderator who did it on my behalf who admitted that this was a mistake, he sends his apologies. This incident though does highlight though the need for ban notifications as well as the need for a modmail system to contact community and site moderators.

I have left the post up with the original contents bellow as I feel it would be wrong to delete the post and rob people of the valuable information it contains, both in the post itself and in the comment section.


I messaged a mod from the community, not sure if that was the one who did it but this was weird. Not sure if it’s power-tripping probably a mistake but it’s certainly weird and seems like a knee jerk reaction since I didn’t have activity in those last 10 days (I checked for votes too). Also no other bans in the modlog for “sock puppet account” so I don’t even know why I would be singled out.

Why would someone think I was a sock puppet account? Because I have multiple accounts on different instances? Really weird…

Account is @[email protected], I didn’t post from that account since I try to keep each account on each separate instance (helps prevent accidental vote manipulation).

  • Unruffled [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m wondering if it was just because you have alts? But it’s not against any rules to have alts afaik so long as you’re not doing vote manipulation etc. And yours are clearly identifiable which is another point in your favour here. If you want me to reach out to the mod who banned you on your behalf, just let me know. They might not answer me, but it’s maybe worth a shot.

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    I messaged a mod from the community, not sure if that was the one who did it but this was weird.

    Lemmy really needs a modmail function. Playing mod roulette when asking questions is a fucking pain.

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      I agree, this is really stupid having to message mods individually. @[email protected] (maybe it was nutomic, I don’t really remember right now) says it’s because they don’t want Lemmy to be a messaging platform, that mods should use external tools. I disagree. We need modmail and adminmail functions native to Lemmy, not needing to use funky bots or external tools.

      We also need for bans to notify the people they’re given to, otherwise it’s as bad as shadowbans. I could’ve probably reached out about this days ago but I didn’t even know it had happened, I don’t look myself up in the modlog, I was looking to see if an unrelated incident had been actioned. Who knows when I would’ve found out if I hadn’t been combing the modlog, weeks, months, would I have ever?

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          I don’t think so, my account and the community in question are both on Lemmy.world and I never got any ban notification.

          Edit, nope, doesn’t notify. Just made a community on sh.itjust.works and banned my account there. The ban is shown in the sidebar but it doesn’t give a notification when it happens, only indication when it is active.

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      I might work on this. My implementation would be a simple backend route that simply messages all of the mods in a community (maybe with a [modmail] prefix as an indicator) Should be fairly simple. Like a bulk PM.

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        That approach seems ineffective to me, you’d end up with situations where every mod wastes time responding to the same thing or where no mod responds at all because they assume someone else will handle it.

        Imo a better starting point is a hidden text post which notifies mods of a community.

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    I got banned individually from every single community on an instance without a single notification. The reason given in the modlog was one word “lib”.

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        Is that actually a native lemmy feature? I think some servers do it as a bot to clear content and prevent interaction but unless I understand correctly the issue of handling users interacting with local communities after receiving a site ban hasn’t yet been addressed. It’s been proposed here to add a table to federate site bans to communities but that seemingly hasn’t been touched or implemented yet.

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          It’s in lemmy code since 0.19.5, kinda, but only triggers local community bans after a local site ban.
          There’s plenty of weird (to me) federation behavior.
          Mostly… an instance admin cannot remove a comment from a local user if it’s on a remote community. I mean… you can, but it doesn’t federate to the remote community.

          There’s a few other things that are counterintuitive

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            Yeah that is weird, an admin should be able to remove a local user’s comments or posts even if they are on remote communities.

            Also the automatically applying local bans after site ban seems like a very hacky workaround and doesn’t work well when new communities are created since those won’t have the person’s ban in them. That’s why I really hope they work on including site bans in communities, that way we just wouldn’t need to worry about it.