• merc@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    The first paragraph is literally the same “I can’t justify capitalism but the others are worse” argument again.

    Which happens to be true. Maybe in the future there will be something better, but so far it hasn’t been found.

    The society we live in is an employment based, market fundamentalist society.

    Sure, ok. And it’s better than a feudalist society where you’re tied to the land, or a slave-based economy where you’re property.

    Instead of lashing out and calling it a silly caricature

    I’m not lashing out. I’m just describing it as a silly caricature, which it is. Capitalism is fundamentally about owners of capital competing to make more money by investing in capital and selling goods at a profit. People who don’t own capital have to work in that kind of a system. Similar to how peasants were tied to land they had to work under feudalism, or slaves were required to do whatever their owners demanded in a slave state, but it’s less brutal. Workers can change employers and their bodies are not owned.

    Is it fair? Of course not, but no socioeconomic system that has ever existed in reality has ever been fair.

    That being said, how much money would it take for you to change your mind about existence being measured in terms of money alone being a silly caricature?

    No amount of money would make me change my mind. There would probably be an amount of money where I’d be willing to lie, but what does that prove? You’d lie too if you were offered enough money. That’s human nature, not capitalism. If this were a feudalist system you could be bribed with land. If it were a theocracy you could be bribed by religious titles.

    I don’t know what you’re trying to prove. Capitalism is bad, but other systems are worse. There are purely theoretical systems that would be better, but none of them has ever survived an encounter with reality. But, that doesn’t mean we should stop trying. Eventually we’ll find a way to improve on capitalism, just like capitalism improved on feudalism.