Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.
The comment “This” is annoying to me. Just use the upvote button!
This.
This. I usually try to avoid commenting just “This” and try to give more explanation why I’m saying that. Feel like that’s the proper way of doing it.
Nazis.
This is the big one
Yeah, fuck Nazis!
Yeah, but actual Nazis. Not “you disagreed with me or voted for someone I don’t like so I’m going to call you a Nazi.”
This user doth protest too much, methinks
Hah. It’s probably gonna be worse here.
I doubt that any instance I’d be interested in being a part of would federate with nazi communities. They’d end up more isolated than on Reddit.
This is why I love the idea of Federation. You can give them their own space to shout and fling their faeces as much as they want but absolutely nobody is required to give them an audience.
They main instances have taken strong stances against nazi shit. The Lemmy developers are leftwing communists even, and they run lemmy.ml, so I don’t think defederating from servers who’ll platform nazis is unlikely.
Reddit has a longstanding reputation for being a hive of scum and villainy (like hosting the_donald for years, or kotakuinaction, etc). I really hope that Lemmy keeps with the general left-leaning vibes of the fediverse overall, hopefully being a good space for queer people, women, people of colour, etc.
I think you do have to be careful here though. If you’re too permissive you allow bigotry, but if you’re too restrictive you cut off honest, good faith debate and create echo chamber silos where beliefs are never challenged.
Bigotry should never be accepted but that means non-discriminatory opinions, especially ones you disagree with, should be allowed.
Good faith is the key here. I’m all for disagreements leading to lengthy discussions and even some controversy as long as everyone is arguing in good faith.
I can’t stand trolling, outright bigotry, and the normalization of literal fascist opinions as a mere “disagreement”. If a “disagreement” (you know which ones I mean) will lead to people dying if enabled, I’m pretty happy keeping those ideas out.
Gender critical ideas are based on truth and reality. If those ideas are censored here that would be terrible.
Hi! I’m trans. If you’re looking to change your mind about that I’m happy to chat! Otherwise I suggest you look to get out of here as soon as possible.
Hi! I’m gender critical. If you’re looking to change your mind about that I’m happy to chat! Otherwise I suggest you look to get out of here as soon as possible.
I’ve never understood the need to militantly oppose others’ personal situations when they have no impact on your own. Even playing devil’s advocate - what is the point of the hate? You don’t believe in gender identity, then don’t personally be trans. The fact that others may be would seem to have literally zero impact on you or your life. Why should Lemmy accommodate negativity that does real harm to people in sensitive circumstances?
So you want censorship of opinions you disagree with? Sounds pretty fascist tbh.
When those views call for the dehuminization of others or are based on false information, yes.
Can’t wait for the screenshot of a Reddit post of a Lemmy post of an Instagram post about Elon tweeting some shit.
Zero tolerance for fascists, and zero tolerance for state propagandists.
The fact that Lemmy is federated means you don’t need to be tolerant of anyone and if they want to keep spewing bigotry and lies. If you make it impossible for them to exist in an instance they’ll have to either give up or spool up their own instance that we can isolate.
Because running an instance requires some organization, maintenance, and money, anything that becomes too isolated from the rest of the fediverse will eventually die out.
The forced ‘inside jokes’ that filled so many threads, so many times you would see a post and be able to predict the top comment and its replies. Hoping that the lack of account karma helps with that.
Ah, the ole Lemmy switcheroo.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger.
I feel conflicted between downvoting this as these are the exact types of comments that ended up grinding my gears, or to upvote you because that’s precisely why you wrote them.
I agree with you. I hope karma is not implemented on Lemmy. The up/downvote system is fine the way it is now. I will say also coins and awards. I don’t really think those are necessary. I’m aware that was something characteristic to reddit (correct me if I’m wrong) but I prefer all that to not come back.
I thought coins and awards were dumb. I think durable comment logs and karma are good things, though.
From what I could gather in my short time here, Karma exists on Lemmy as well, it’s just not a public stat and that’s great because it completely eliminates the reason for karma whoring.
Sure you could try to add up all the upvotes and deduct your downvotes, but why bother? People trying to raise their karma (or those weirdos who were trying to farm downvotes) were always annoying at best and conversation killers at worst.
Upvote/downvote counts mangling. Just show the real numbers, don’t mess with them with an unknown “algorithm”.
As far as I can see, the real number is already on top of the post. And then you have the split of up/downvotes near the arrows. So the “algorithm” is just basic addidion and subtraction. Someone correct me if I saw something wrong…
That’s not what they mean, they’re referring to “score fuzzing”, a tactic Reddit used to combat vote manipulation. The number you see on a post or comment isn’t the actual number, it’s been fudged a little.
I think they’re referring to what Reddit did with not showing them separately
I think they’re actually referring to the anti vote manipulation reddit function which adds random values to vote counts (you can see it if you refresh a post that you know people aren’t viewing like it’s old then you can see the count change on refresh)
Mods locking threads because “y’all can’t behave” jfc just ban accounts breaking the rules and let the rest discuss
The reason they do this is so they don’t have to spend their entire life moderating a single thread.
liberals, lemmy was made by communists for communists
Oh boy, you’re going to be in for a disappointment
Are your principles that weak that you can’t even debate them?
Do we really need safe spaces where our ideas aren’t challenged?
One of my gripes with Reddit was that subs became circlejerks where any opposing views got downvoted to oblivion so people just left the sub.
Lemmy may have been made by commies, but the fibre and 5g was built with capitalism.
yes, i would much rather be among people who don’t actively support the pillaging of the global south and the american war machine, i don’t like being among people who treat my identity as a trans woman as something that should be subject to debate over whether i should be allowed to get gender affirming care. I dont want every second of being online to be focused around debate bro liberals asking me to justify my beliefs to them, if they want to learn i’m willing to talk, if they want to try to do an epic own in the free market place of ideas i don’t really care enough to engage that much, except maybe to mock them.
i think the redditor influx to lemmy is a good thing, its created an active space for liberals to be taught some class consciousness by committed communists from lemmygrad and hexbear in a space that is controlled by other open marxist leninists. it doesnt mean i have to like the liberals though.
Massive amounts of cross-posting / re-posting of the same memes over and over again for klout farming. It’s seriously awful on Reddit.
Some way to cut down on bot spam / bot shills. The political manipulation in Reddit really grew thick 2015ish and never went away.
The comment bots got thicker than mosquitoes in a swamp over the past couple of years. You couldn’t go into a comment section without half the comments being bots reposting them from other similar threads.
The power that the admins have. While most subreddit bans were justified, in my opinion, it just felt really off for them to have so much power.
Here admin has even more power, except it is limited to their own instance. So it is more on the user to be prepared. You don’t want to be too attached to your data on a single instance. The instance might be abandoned, down, gone; the admin might go crazy. And the solution isn’t to have the admin be more reasonable. The solution is to hedge your bets on multiple instances and multiple communities.
I feel the same, I mostly lurk.
Flair would be nice, but I think Lemmy should do it its own way with hashtags. It would be cool to search for hashtags within specific communities, subscribed communities, entire instances, and all instances.
Edit:
It would also be nice if there was a link directly to a reply in my inbox. Maybe this is more of a bug than a feature request, but it’s a convenience that I miss. Right now on Lemmy, if I want to respond, I have to go to the OP and then scroll to find the comment.Nevermind, I found the link button on the web interface. It is just missing from Jerboa.
