• j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 months ago

    I count 5, so I can get you that far. 1/2 are the same. Lighting makes it hard, hair is different, but right breast mole is the same. 3/6 are the obvious birth mark.

    • MaybeALittleBitWeird@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      You’re right about 3/6 for obvious reasons, but I’m not so sure about 1/2. The bone structure in her face, specifically her brow and nose are just too different.

      • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Admittedly, it’s hard to say conclusively. The left’s eyebrows are drawn on with makeup, and the angle of the light source and shadow obscure the nose proportions. The right’s stretched posture by comparison makes it hard to pin down the diff. I think the strongest argument against is the lower abdomen mole that is hard to discount as an anomaly of lighting and exposure. However, there is also the mole match on the chin.

        • MaybeALittleBitWeird@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          The chin freckles don’t actually match though. I don’t know if you have fair skin, but freckles do come and go over time. None of those actually look like moles to me. I was actually referring to the shape of their brow ridge, not the eyebrows, and the nostril flare difference is something that’s not going to change with a relaxed facial posture.

          • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Sorry, I should have been using the word freckle not mole. It was not intended as a negative opinion of either.

            Aside from the diff, do you register a brow ridge as a perceptive feature that you are always aware of? I ask because I’ve noticed when I am reading books that describe facial features, they do not register in my mind as relevant information. My mental picture of a character develops on its own based upon context of actions that define personality. Likewise when I look at faces, I can’t articulate shape and the underlying structural features in any meaningful way. I know what I find attractive, and can point it out, but I can’t really describe it well and it does not seem to be the kind of thing where I lack the vocabulary, but more of the kind of thing that does not interest me. I may not find facial structural language interesting, but it is interesting to see how others might perceive the world differently. I write off most attractive features as an abstract degree of neotenous asymmetry; large eyes, small nose, small mouth, forward angle to the face, etc. I do not see chin, brow, facial shape, or jawline in a tangible definitive or memorable way. Even when you mention the differences in brow between images 1/2, I see lighting and makeup, but feel blind to what you are pointing out. I’m being totally honest, not like passive aggressive or anything like that. Sorry if my verbose specificity is abrasive, feel free to ignore. The observation just struck a deeper chord for me in an area seldom explored.

            • MaybeALittleBitWeird@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              I didn’t interpret the freckle vs mole thing negatively, but there is a difference between the two.

              Generally when people look at a face they see a few main features: jawline, browridge, chin shape/size, nose shape/size, cheekbones, and eye socket shape. Almost all of these are affected by the underlying shape of the bone underneath in the skull and don’t change, but there will be changes to the tissue on top. That’s really what you’ve got to look for.

              In the case of the brow ridge, if you feel above your eye socket a little below your eyebrows(it’s more pronounced in males and should be more prominent on you) that’s your brow ridge. It’s that bone that gives most of your forehead its shape and the eyebrows just frame it. You can change eyebrows though you can’t change bone without surgery.

              It’s one of those things that everyone knows on a subconscious level (you mention seeing attractiveness, which is what that is), but until you have the words to describe it you don’t really see it.

              • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                2 months ago

                See the thing is, I have the words to describe it and know what it is. I know from seeing all the skull reconstructions of other human species how the brow line looks in the various skull forms. I still don’t see it in faces at all as a defining feature I can pick out. I know what to look for, but I can’t picture a skull in a human face. I don’t know why, but a skull is like a thing with meaning separate from faces on some kind of level. I don’t want to associate them. It is not that I cannot do so, I’m more than smart enough for that. I can see the connections between the features if I care to try. It is like forcing myself to eat something I do not like though. I do not focus on these features for identity. I’m aware of the fact that the face is built on these element, but I simply want to enjoy sausage without making it on some kind of level of subconscious.