I want to understand it but everything I read about it oscillates impossibly between vulgar metals -> gold and some kind of spiritual transformation metaphysical stuff

What is it and what can be legit gleaned from it in an empirical or useful sense?

Does it have utility outside of use as a metaphor or allegory or whatever?

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    Air is not an element. It is composed of Nitrogen, Oxygen, CO2, Argon, and trace gases. https://earthhow.com/earth-atmosphere-composition/

    You do know what an element is, right?

    Breathing out CO2 is not evidence of alchemy because it’s in the air we breathe in. We aren’t creating CO2.

    Learn some grade 3 science.

    Dollars to donuts you are a flatearther.

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      I don’t know about being a flat earther, but I know for a fact they’re a moon landing denier. Very unkeen on evidence, that one.

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      These are elements.

      With some of them playing prominent roles due to something that is well-researched (dollars to donuts you don’t like to question things but instead point and say “flat earther” to get out of things; I’m just running on intellect that ironically the same people who criticize me have given).

      If CO2 emissions were seen an issue, and everything the body produces was never actually produced in the first place, you’d think one of the solutions wouldn’t be cutting down on steak and killing whales (and before a certain someone interprets this wrong and says I’m a climate change denier, I’m not), that some organism somewhere could cheat the ecosystem by eating byproducts, that if you eat metal either you or your byproducts would be magnetic, that animal venom or allergic reactions would be a little less of an issue, that killing animals wouldn’t be said to release more carbon than killing plants releases oxygen, or that bananas wouldn’t produce antimatter, you know, something that’s not even supposed to exist on Earth. At this point I might as well feel prepared for this kind of scrutiny at this point.

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          You say that like that makes it good form or critical form in conversation or that you are going at me on an individual point basis. I even have sources (for example, doesn’t that undermine HeLa cells). Do you expect people in every disagreeable encounter to see someone objecting to their claim and be like “yeah, uhm, I’ll just phrase everything as a question towards myself/others now and go into disciple mode”. I’ve been forced to do a suspicious amount of that here.

          If I was taking your approach, I’d point at you and say “lizard people believer”. In all of my time watching politics, I can’t remember a single time it escalated so much that someone on TV said “that Republican probably believes the Earth is flat”, as they for one don’t go that far. Must I clarify all my beliefs in existence before questioning someone or something so that people don’t point at me during a debate about, say, which way the toilet paper goes, and say “she probably believes chocolate milk comes from chocolate cows”?

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            Sorry, I don’t have time to read anymore of your comments. Many here have tried to teach you basic science and you refuse to learn. It’s been entertaining.

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              …as opposed to what, considering “many here” and “it’s been entertaining” ignores a certain person who pointed and used a flat earth strawman?