• realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubOP
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    2 months ago

    I’m in a right wing Lemmy community run by someone who used to be alt right (and probably is but I muted him when he was spouting racist nonsense at me on another corner of the Fediverse), [email protected], and there is absolutely zero censorship over there. Most of the comments there are by people on the left.

    I get what you’re saying here to a point, there are a lot of right wingers who support censorship to varying degrees. Even Trump has spoken in support of some forms of censorship before, even if they didn’t materialize into political policy (“opening up the libel laws” and his recent calls to make burning the American flag a crime come to mind). But it’s not true that every single conservative supports anti-left censorship, without exception.

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      Dude, conservatives are literally burning banning books everywhere in the country where they have power. They’ve even banned books meant to encourage girls to learn how to code. Real bananas stuff, imo

      I appreciate you’re trying to communicate well and you seem authentic and all, but it’s very difficult to take your position seriously when it feels like you’re not trying to challenge your own beliefs. There’s a ton of evidence of conservative censorship going as far back as McCarthyism and interment camps, to rock and roll and rap music, to even burning comic books in the 50s, and that’s just thinking of the US. There’s a very long history of white conservative Christians censoring almost everything popular going back like hundreds of years

      As a personal anecdote, my cousin had to break his pokemon gameboy games and burn his pokemon cards because his dipshit mom abusive mother thought they were satanic, simply because her church said so. I got some cool, holographic cards out of it, but I never forgot how messed up that was

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        I mostly agree with what you’re saying here, with two caveats. Firstly, I don’t think that books with sexually explicit images should be able to be checked out by children in libraries. (To be fair to you, I think we both know the current book banning thing goes beyond that.) There’s a limited amount of censorship that I do agree with the right on, but it’s for edge cases like that. I’m on the right and I oppose this flag burning policy, like I opposed Trump’s call to “open up the libel laws” and like I opposed the right wing calls to bring back the fairness doctrine during the Obama administration, as well as flag burning bans that were being called for at the time.

        Secondly, that Satanic Panic stuff was more religious fanaticism than political propaganda, I don’t think we’ve seen the two syncretized to this level in a long time. Just because the religiously zealot nuts are MAGA people today doesn’t mean that religious fanaticism has always been tied to the hip with mainstream-ish political activism.

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      2 months ago

      there is absolutely zero censorship over there

      Challenge accepted

      I’ll be back with you tonight or tomorrow

      • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubOP
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        I mean, it’s called Conservative, with an explicit goal of sharing right wing articles. It’s the equivalent of articles about TV shows getting removed from a videogame community.

        Look at the comment sections. People are allowed to say pretty much whatever they want down there.

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          Your words:

          and there is absolutely zero censorship over there.

          The modlog I linked to literally proves this wrong. You can see the deleted comments. Maybe click the link and look for yourself.