I’m taking on the mantle this week.

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  • This thread is only for comments discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Monero.

  • NOT the positive aspects of it.

  • Discussion can relate to the technology itself or its economics.

  • Talk about community and price is not wanted, but some discussion about it maybe allowed if it relates well.

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  2. If you can address these concerns, or add further details to them – reply to that comment. This will make it easily sort-able.

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The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool.

  • Berg
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    5 months ago

    Scaling: if a lot of people suddenly have a need or want to use Monero, can it handle it? There is the dynamic block size, but no layer 2 to move transactions away from the chain. How many transactions per day can be handled before fees get to BTC levels? And how much would that grow the chain per day? It is my understanding that Full Chain Membership Proofs will increase the transaction size, so prefrebly add that to the equation.

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      5 months ago

      Fees are designed to decrease as there is more transactions. Recent stress tests have shown the network can do about 500k transaction per day before some stability issues start. Fixes and improvements are in the works. We are most likely still 5 years away from any significant TX volume on Monero.

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          5 months ago

          I was participating in the stress test and noticed node stability issues around that level. It could be +/- 200k, we will see when an official report is released regarding the test.

          But for certain at current state Monero cannot handle 1 million tx per day without problems.

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      5 months ago

      @Berg @aldalire the fees in monero work diferently than bitcoin…
      Monero has an dinamyc block size which means that once the blocks become full the blocksize limit will expand, this is done slowly to avoid spam just otherwise empy blocks… also with the encrease of blocksize the fees get lower… (I dont recall the math used here)
      But that sayed, its not a perfect system but the community is willing to adapt as needed…

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      5 months ago

      Most likely a misdirection tactic. The morons in power could never execute something like that. Just look at everything government runs, it is always a total disaster.

      They will have to rely on existing systems, which means I will be able to swap in and out using Monero. No matter what they do, I win.