• randon31415@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I wonder how much of Biden’s outrage is because of support for Bibi, and how much of it is because the ICC could start issuing warrant for US presidents?

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      7 months ago

      Probably a mix of both. This is an issue that Biden us actually ideological on, he is genuinely a zionist. But he also has that habitual conservative infatuation with the status quo and sitting on fences.

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      7 months ago

      100% the former. Biden supported the ICC until it started going after his pal. Now he just gave Putin a propaganda freebie.

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        7 months ago

        Now he just gave Putin a propaganda freebie.

        I’m not sure who this propaganda is supposed to appeal towards? The dividing lines between the old Cold War states have sharpened considerably. Biden and Putin can’t really do anything wrong, from within their own camps. Its always “Whataboutism” and “You people don’t understand what’s at stake” to dismiss the incoherent contradiction of their respective policies.

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          7 months ago

          Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda when he questioned the legitimacy of the ICC arrest warrants and implicitly accused them of playing politics - which is basically Putin’s line. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.

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            Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda

            Who is being propagandized? Everyone’s already picked their side.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.

            I seriously doubt it, if for no other reason than any number of armed and extremely angry Ukrainian partisans are gunning for him everywhere he goes. But at some point, countries like South Africa, India, and Brazil are going to be asked to turn down diplomats from an enthusiastic new partner by British or American scald complaining about international norms.

            To quote the Kenyan Ambassador Dr Lubinda Haabazoka,

            Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.