Obviously an international protectorate would be incompatible with a zionist state. It might be more of a no state solution than a one state solution.
A tricky part of zionism might be that, except for the fact that it’s an inherently evil contemporary ideology, a longing for Zion is somewhat inherit in Judaism. If a version of zionism is to be salvaged I think it requires a rethinking of what Zion is - peaceful coexistence during the Ottoman Empire might be as close as one could ever get to its meaning in a religious sense.
As it appears today, zionism is a longing for a pure state of a single people, based on romanticized ideas of a hypothetical past that we know literally nothing about. That’s pretty much exactly the same as any other totalitarian ideology.
I do, however, believe that we have to accept that ancient history matters. Not necessarily because it actually does, but because it creates powerful narratives that are incredibly hard to fight.
@aasatru
I’ve read that Jewish Zionism takes many forms. Among them, that Zion is wherever Jews are.
Complicating that is that Jewish Zionism springs from Christian Zionism. That’s a Protestant reinterpretation of scripture dating from the turn of the 17th century.
Jews didn’t start using the term ‘Zionism’ in relation to themselves until the late 19th century. Herzl adopted (or perhaps developed) the Jewish master race interpretation. Other groups evidently took different paths.
Originally, Palestine wasn’t part of the plan. Locations around the world were considered. Somebody (probably Herzl) realised that they could leverage the historical connection to Palestine. It also plays into the Christian rapture/second coming narrative, which was significant in the British involvement. The image is from the link that I posted earlier. #Palestine #Israel #colonialism #imperialism
Obviously an international protectorate would be incompatible with a zionist state. It might be more of a no state solution than a one state solution.
A tricky part of zionism might be that, except for the fact that it’s an inherently evil contemporary ideology, a longing for Zion is somewhat inherit in Judaism. If a version of zionism is to be salvaged I think it requires a rethinking of what Zion is - peaceful coexistence during the Ottoman Empire might be as close as one could ever get to its meaning in a religious sense.
As it appears today, zionism is a longing for a pure state of a single people, based on romanticized ideas of a hypothetical past that we know literally nothing about. That’s pretty much exactly the same as any other totalitarian ideology.
I do, however, believe that we have to accept that ancient history matters. Not necessarily because it actually does, but because it creates powerful narratives that are incredibly hard to fight.
@aasatru
I’ve read that Jewish Zionism takes many forms. Among them, that Zion is wherever Jews are.
Complicating that is that Jewish Zionism springs from Christian Zionism. That’s a Protestant reinterpretation of scripture dating from the turn of the 17th century.
Jews didn’t start using the term ‘Zionism’ in relation to themselves until the late 19th century. Herzl adopted (or perhaps developed) the Jewish master race interpretation. Other groups evidently took different paths.
Originally, Palestine wasn’t part of the plan. Locations around the world were considered. Somebody (probably Herzl) realised that they could leverage the historical connection to Palestine. It also plays into the Christian rapture/second coming narrative, which was significant in the British involvement. The image is from the link that I posted earlier.
#Palestine
#Israel
#colonialism
#imperialism