The Labour party has won over 400 seats (out of 650) in the 2024 UK General Elections, and Keir Starmer is expected to replace Rishi Sunak as Prime Minister. The Conservatives, in power for the last fourteen years, have suffered a rout, losing over two-thirds of their seats. The SNP has collapsed in Scotland, mostly to Labour, and the Liberal Democrats have gained over sixty seats.
Well, at least the was one election where Nazis didn’t win big.
They didn’t do that bad really, it just wasn’t reflected in the results. A new further right party showed up and split the right wing vote, which is largely why Labour won. If you look at the total votes the righter win parties did pretty well (Tories are really all that right wing but they did get the right wing vote).
Mind describing to us what you consider a right, but not far right, political stance is? Examples of both economic and social policies would be welcome.
Democrats. Sounds funny, but it’s true. Bernie would be “mostly left”.
I’m not American so I’m not all that familiar with that frame of reference
Where are you from?
Doesn’t matter, just explain it with actual examples of policies
Sure thing, chief.
Neoliberal economics (low corporate taxes, weak regulations, privatization, weak welfare system, government intervention is used to facilitate further market expansion and prop up big businesses).
Large budgets for the army and the police without much external oversight, while still maintaining some level of restraint on what they can do.
Making it harder to get a visa and even harder to get a citizenship.
Hard-line stance against what are considered vices by the society the conservatives in question inhabit.
A preservation of the monarchy in countries which have them.
Incentives to give birth.
Not a bad lisy actually, although I heavily disagree with the military and police budgets line… Authoritarian left regimes are known for very high police and military budgets even with heavily states controlled economies.
Edit: police and military spending tends to relate more to the libertarian-authoritarian spectrum rather than the socioeconomic left-right spectrum
Among smaller parties, the Liberal Democrats have gained over 60 seats, and Reform, the Greens and Plaid Cymru have also gained seats. Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, now contesting as an independent, retained Islington North. Labour lost another three seats to independents who ran against its inaction on Palestine. The SNP and DUP suffered big losses, while Sinn Fein’s fortunes seem to have remained unchanged.
Is jeremy corbyn considered to the left of the Labour party?
Yeah, starmer kicked him out for not being centrist enough, which is why he ran independent (and beat the labour candidate)
and now they can kick out Kier and reinstate Jeremy! right!? right?? in my dreams
Nobody voted for Corbyn, that’s why he isn’t the leader of the Labour Party anymore.
To be fair, more people voted for Corbyn in 2017 and probably even in 2019 (still some votes to be counted at time of writing so that could change but it’ll be close either way) than voted Labour in this election (12.8 million 2017/10.2 million 2019 vs 9.7 million so far in 2024).
It’s just an artifact of FPTP and to some extent overall turnout (which was very low this election) that the results in terms of seats look so different.
Last I checked ~18:00BST
Party Seats Votes % Lab 412 9,725,117 33.8 Con 121 6,824,610 23.7 Reform 5 4,103,727 14.3 Lib Dem 71 3,501,004 12.2 Green 4 1,941,220 6.8 Indep. 7 841,835 2.9 …I am personally glad that the next government is not going to be stuffed full with bigoted nationalists from Reform. I can’t help but marvel though at how wonky the system of voting is that let the Lib Dem’s get an order of magnitude more seats than Reform with 600k fewer votes. Reform got just under half Labour’s vote share and only slightly over 1% of their seats.
Now kill Brexit!
How do you convince the EU to let us back in?
We’ll need a couple of Labour terms before they’ll answer the phone.
EU demands are the easy part. It’s rather obvious what they would be. Something along the lines of: ‘The UK can rejoin at any time, but without all the special treatment it has been receiving.’
Try to convince the people that’s good. Will another referendum still be in favour of rejoining, if you have to accept the Euro, new immigration laws, maybe the metric system and other standards?
I have some doubts there.
