I’m more of an Android girl myself
Do you dream of electric sheep?
huh?
When you post such an incomprehensible image, you have no right to comment “huh?”
She’s into robots not fruit!
To each their own I guess
WTF is this even
I assume it’s your ability to visualise things in your head. I’m the last one 🙃
Ah OK. I thought it was suggesting that Apple users are only one step away from having nothing in their heads.
This place gets to you sometimes.
It’s even worse considering Apple users have already had one bite removed.
I’m the last one 🙃
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cries in can relate
I’m a 1. I was today years old when I learned that there are people who can only visualize the outline of an apple, nothing at all, or anything other than a fully 3D rendered apple like in a computer generated image. To answer your question, no I don’t!
In my case, it’s not exactly like an outline, it’s just… I can’t describe it because I can’t actually focus on it, it’s like a cross between a picture and a notion. But somehow, in the lineup, the outline seems like the most accurate level of detail.
Also color is absent for me, don’t know about for others.
I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.
Do you have an internal dialogue? Or is it all visual? Cuz my internal world is basically a lightly illustrated book, 95% dialogue and occasionally I can imagine a vague image.
For me when I’m daydreaming it’s like watching a movie, my eyes might be open but I don’t see shit, my brain’s doing other things. Or when I’m visualizing something it’s like free and organic AR. But yeah, no dialogue necessary, it’s like a hallucination that I control.
Not my experience at all! If I’m day dreaming it’s 100% narrative. Brains are weird.
I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.
I had that same reaction. “You mean you can see it? No like, really see it, not just think about seeing it? What the fuck?”
I can see it, separate it into parts, rotate it around, put it back together, etc etc. I design things entirely in my head visually before actually building them. I assume that’s how most engineers/artists operate.
Yeah, I’ve always been a shit artist for I assume the opposite reason; I can think of a thing in a macro sense, like "I want to draw [thing], it has these features’, but when it comes time to actually draw those features, I can’t pinpoint exactly what they look like. It’s like reading a few sentence description of a tree, and then trying to draw one purely based on that description - you can get a general sense for what it looks like, but not the fine detail needed to accurately represent one visually.
Incidentally, I have a difficult time commissioning art as a result, because I have an idea of what I want, but I have a hard time communicating the finer details. AI generated art has actually been really helpful for me in this regard; I can see something and know if it’s what I want or not, so being able to give an AI art generator a broad description and get back 100 images from which I can pick a few and tell an artist which parts of each one I want has made it much easier.
When i zone out, i can have full conversations with people ive never met in my mind while walking to work.
Basically flying blind through traffic, unless something relevant registers on my “conscious” mind.
These conversations that never happened don’t always go well, so I whish I could have less of them.
Same same, i try to be aware of it and ground myself when i do catch it drift into just verbalising anxiety with no real benefit.
Especially when i should be enjoying reality instead, like during a movie, concert or hike
It’s funny, really, because aphantasia is supposed to be fairly rare, but every time a thread like this comes up, folks come out of the woodwork saying “Oh, yeah, that’s me.” Makes me wonder if it isn’t a lot more common than believed, but people just don’t realize they have it. There don’t seem to have been any real studies done on it.
I can have conversations in my mind, but there’s no visuals associated with it. It’s like a radio broadcast vs. a TV program. I can think about the description of an object, and recite back its physical qualities, but I can’t visualize that object at all.
Both internal dialogue which sounds the same as my spoken voice alongside images or videos, similar to when there’s a montage being narrated in a movie is the best way I can explain it. This is all fascinating to me now! Do you dream very often?
I only seem to dream if I’m not sleeping well. I can pretty reliably make myself dream by having coffee before bed. Otherwise, nope, there’s just a vague sense that time has passed when I wake up. If I do dream it’s highly visual, though.
I’m a 1 and of course I do. Imagination is like playing with dolls. You already know everything going on. It’s not the same as watching something made by other people.
Nah, I don’t use apple devices for watching porn
Wtf are you asking?
People are not all one? Do yo really imagine grey potatoes when someone says apple.
I’m still coming to terms of people who don’t think visually, there are people who think in grayscale??
I guess I do?
Visualizing stuff isn’t quite the outline one, there’s more detail. But thinking of some paintings, I can’t quite recall the colors.
I have been diagnosed with aphantasia, so I’m a 5. I have no ability to visualise anything in my head, I was in my 40s before I realised that “minds eye” is not a metaphor for most people.
So, I worked in a job shop, I would draw things up in CAD and leave everything the default grey texture. then the customer would say “I don’t want it to be grey. I want it [wood, gold, magenta plaid, whatever]” and I would say “Yeah I’m going to make it out of [whatever], I’m just confirming the physical design.” and they would reply “I can’t see it.”
Is that you?
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It’s a new fad ailment like the magically disappearing “gluten intolerance” epidemic. People with no personalities substitute these things instead. See also “neurodivergence” etc.
Neurodivergent is a huge spectrum we’re still figuring out. But what do you mean by fad ailment.
Genuinely curious about this scale, I’m sure there would be 4s and 5s but expect majority to be 1 or 4 depending on their context when they hear ‘Apple’
Thank you. That other guy’s take is very destructive
Maybe start using a word when it has some meaning then.
But what do you mean by fad ailment.
“…like the magically disappearing “gluten intolerance” epidemic. People with no personalities substitute these things instead.”. It’s the height of fashion to have a minor ailment these days. Particularly if it’s an unprovable one like this absurd nonsense.
I’m a 1 and yes I do. I can imagine something, but it’s hard to concentrate on something super detailed and fully enjoy myself
1 here as well. I can even mimic the sensation my body would get, yet I prefer adult content to save on processing power.
interesting
I’m a 1, and yes I watch porn to collect “materials” to concoct the most perfect porn in my head that no one has seen and will never see.
Being a 1 and bi is my super power. (Definitely not my dyslexia)
I’m looking through this thread and the concept behind the picture is 100x more fascinating to me than the actual question. Is the number your maximum capability?
I’d estimate I go through the majority (90℅?) of each day at like a 4 bordering on 5, but at times I’ll move up to 2. It’s a pretty seamless transition, I don’t really have an explanation for why it only happens every so often. It’s not like it’s exclusively reserved for moments where it’s more useful.
I’m 1 and watch every day, though i read many books too, so everything balances out, also my work requires a lot of improvisation that makes you think on problem solving, so positive impact is bigger
I’m 1 and watch every day
You are too young to be watching porn 🥁 🤣
Reminds me of that “I am 12 years old and what is this” meme lol
I can imagine an apple like in 1, maybe not with light reflections, but with colors and can rotate it around. But it takes a lot of concentration and effort and i’m never really sure if i’m just conceptualizing it.
I’d like to ask a different question. If you imagine something disgusting (like biting into a rotten, moldy apple) do you feel disgust? I always found it super weird when people feel disgusted at hearing a description of something disgusting and involuntarily imagining it. Meanwhile i have to do a concious effort and even then doesn’t evoke nearly the same response as seeing something real
The disgust can be triggered from memories of foul smell, taste and how their parents reacted even.
Not necessarily a reaction coming from visualing a brown apple. Hope that clear it a bit.
Adult video? Fuck no. Extremely degenerate furry hentai on the other hand…
:( You just made me realize I’m only a 3 and I’m missing out on color mode. This hurts.
Dude, I’m a 5 lol
That’s a legitimate nightmare for me. No offense but that feels incredibly dark and bleak, I’m sorry you don’t get to see pictures in your head buddy. 🙁
It’s one of those things where I didn’t know until I was in my 30s and figured imagining things meant thinking about them and not actually seeing them.
If you don’t know what it’s like you can’t miss something, ya know? But there are experiments that are trying to give visualisations to aphantasia folk. I’m not sure I’d try it because then I would be missing something.
But, big pro: I can see absolute horrific stuff and I’ll never be able to reimagine it. Describe a vile, nasty car wreck? Can’t see it but I know it’s bad. It has weird benefits
Just in case you’re worried that you’re locked in – you’re not. Abstain from listening to music, watching TV, and consuming media for a week or two, and watch your brain literally glitter into life to provide you with entertainment.
If you want a more short-term solution: waking up after lack of sufficient sleep, and wandering to the bathroom in half-sleep mode should put you in a state of mind where it’s easy to “hear” a desired song playing in your head.
I assume you responded to the wrong person?
no, you hinted that you were stuck as a 3, and I’m telling you that it’s not fixed.
So when I was a child and these things didn’t exist and I wasn’t watching screens, why was it exactly the same? Why has it been the exact same at every stage of my life never weaker nor stronger? I’m just trying to get at the point that you’re full of shit and probably pulled that straight out of your own ass.
This is a public discussion. I was offering my two cents on how you or others could better their position on visualisation. I don’t quite understand where the hostility is coming from, but you coming back with your own two cents on being hard-wired naturally means that my advice does not apply to you.
At a 2, I have but don’t regularly.
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