• datavoid@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        I was working with a doc on an IT problem a few months ago… It was a mildy terrifying experience, I would never want someone so ignorant as my doctor.

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          I don’t know, I don’t think I want the best IT person in the world performing an appendectomy.

          Just because you’re an expert in one field doesn’t mean you’re an expert in every field.

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            4 months ago

            I don’t think I want the best IT person in the world performing an appendectomy.

            “Okay so let’s start with the simplest thing by performing a power cycle and seeing if that fixes it…CLEAR!”

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      I was married to a lawyer for years. They have to bill somewhere from 1700-2200 hours a year to stay on partner track. And they can’t bill every hour that they’re working (although they can double up sometimes by using the minimum 2/10ths of an hour). My sympathy is with the lawyer. It’s not a power dynamic, it’s how the firm makes money and what you’re there to do.

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        Yeah, because being a raging asshole to your coworkers is justified as long as it helps you “stay on partner track.”

        Abusive people always find justifications for it.

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          “Look guys, their industry makes their boss abusive to them which makes them abusive to their staff, so it’s just how it is because money…”

          This is like "Well my drunk granddad had anger issues after the war so he beat my dad who beat me something fierce and I turned out fine " of the professional world.

          Some people think enough money or status is worth disrespecting other human beings who are just trying to do their already shitty enough job, and that’s concerning.

          I.T has to hit their “ticket targets” to stay on the “lights come on when they flip the switch at home” track, it’s how they make their money and what they’re paid to do.

          Playing coddling psychologist for grown adults who could pass a bar exam but can’t handle basic respect doesn’t make things any easier lol.

          To any of those types reading this:

          Stressed or not, it’s amazing how fast things move when you work with IT as teammates instead of underlings, using your level brain instead of your emotionally unstable mouth.

        • Dr. Bob@lemmy.ca
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          4 months ago

          Because their continued employment depends on them hitting their targets so they need support staff to do their jobs.

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            Yup, there’s the justification right on time. They had to abandon basic civility and professionalism to “hit their targets.”

            Thats why they can be abusive, ignore the company process for tickets, threaten their coworkers, whatever they want. They need to “stay on parnet track” and “hit their targets.” No one else has any stressors or requirements at their workplace, just the lawyers.

            Nevermind that the “support staff” make sure lots of people, processes and services work, and may individually be more important to “hitting targets” for the company as a whole than any individual lawyer.

            How about the lawyers “do their job” by interacting with their coworkers professionally? By submitting tickets correctly and in a timely manner?

            Abusing your coworkers is never justified.

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              edit: nix this.


              they never justified anything.

              they explained.

              explained why they were raging assholes or whatever.

              but didn’t justify.

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                Nah, that was justification. If only “the service workers” would “do their jobs,” then it wouldn’t have to happen.

                “If you just didn’t make me mad, I wouldn’t have to X” is abuser 101.

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            But being rude and abusive to support staff doesn’t help, encourage, or even compel the support staff do their jobs any better or faster. In fact, I’d wager it’s rather the opposite.

            I work in IT (not IT support, though) and I’m fortunate enough that none of my business partners are outright abusive. Even so, I still have some that I deprioritize compared to others because working with them is a pain (things like asking for project proposals to solve X problem and never having money to fund them). If someone was actively rude to me when I had fucked up, much less when I was doing a great job, I can guarantee I wouldn’t work any better or faster when it was for them.