There was a time when America could reliably produce assassins who could kill both presidential candidates and even sitting presidents. What the he’ll happened? Deindustralization? Too much porn and video games?
Radicalization of ideologies is my bet. Radicals on both sides scream that the other side is evil which creates something broken in the easily influenced. Hell there’s even some radicals that believe that Trump needed to be killed to stop him. And thanks to this person, Trumps side is only bolstered.
I’m sure the next thing we will see is finger pointing. However whoever is going to read this and wants to hear some wisdom from a fellow random internet stranger; let this guy stand alone. Do not blame the other side or accuse them of wild theories or accusations. If you do go radical, the situation is only going to get worse
Wasn’t the failed assassin a registered Republican?
Yeah but he also donated to ActBlue so it sounds like he was a RINO Libtard. Probably a Marco Rubio supporter.
I think people are placing too much on this. Being registered is just sending a piece of mail with a checkbox checked, I think. You don’t even have to donate or anything. I registered as a Republican to vote in their primaries a long time ago, and I have literally never voted for a Republican candidate for any office.
Any sane person would think like you, but if the shooter was a registered democrat, you know that the GOP would have used that as well to accuse Biden even more.
This needs a catchy name, like ‘forging the coin’
The people mad at Nazis are really shrill, just like the Nazis. So they must be equally wrong. Right?
And yes we really are dealing with fascists at the moment, please be serious instead of grasping for some ‘juuust becaaause’ excuse as to why someone would make the comparison. They are comparable. That’s why. The Idiot has openly opined about being a dictator (just a little! just the tip!) after instigating a failed coup that saw every elected member of the federal government besides him cowering in a basement because an angry mob stormed the goddamn capitol. That’s not counting the other coup d’etat efforts, like extorting allies for foreign interference, secretly calling governors to just make up numbers, or indeed sending fake electors to make up the numbers himself. The GOP’s publicly-stated policy goals include criminalizing queer identities, banning birth control, and seeking revenge on anyone who’s not personally loyal to dear leader. I don’t give a shit if you might think they wouldn’t succeed in these efforts. The fact they want that, and are openly talking about trying to do it, is what makes them fascists.
did I really learn about an assassination attempt thru lemmy
Isn’t that the point of Lemmy? So you don’t have to rawdog news?
Oh, you want your news filtered, but you will happily rawdog Becky who may or may not have Clamidia
yeah i suppose that’s better
I mean news is literally the only reason why I visit Lemmy.
When I want memes, I go to imgur.
Same, felt weird.
Beyond that, I learned about it via a particularly cold meme.
I was glad to see that meme to remember the anecdote. Valuable info in these times.
I learned through KnowYourMeme.
“Shot an unpopular politician”
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
(Yes ik Trump)
I mean, define “popular politician” / " unpopular politician." Does the fact that the media constantly shoves all these yahoos in our faces make these political figures popular? Unpopular? It’s all corrupt and I hate every mention of ANY politician’s names, while some people choose politicians to cheer for like it’s a fekkin sports team.
“Entire nation hates him”
It’s kinda true in the sense that:
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One side hates him because he tried to kill their god.
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Another side hates him because he missed.
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And another side hates him for attempting it in the first place because all it does is make an already very unstable political situation even worse no matter the outcome.
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I’ve honestly been really surprised that this was the only ‘real’ assassination attempt in recent memory. I was surprised that no one went after Obama, nor Trump after him and Biden after him. The rage was so high, yet it’s only now that anyone from either side makes a real attempt.
I’m just making a guess here, but there could have been more attempts that were nippedl in the bud early enough that we have never heard of them, because the would-be assaains were sloppier and got caught.
You’re correct. You’ll notice every president in recent history has multiple assassination attempts listed. The bulk of them don’t go very far.
Oh I’m sure that’s the case. There are probably many attempts. Having said that, it’s shocking this is the only one in recent times that has gotten this close.
I guess Bush had a shoe thrown at him though.
Hierarchy tends to prevent violence by providing an authority to appeal to. So long as there is some process people can take, in hope of redress, they will choose that instead of just stabbing a motherfucker. This applies to interpersonal conflict with your neighbor, or mass conflict between religious groups, indeed everybody seeing a fat old baby commit high crimes on national television. Even if you feel the odds are abysmal, that can be enough to stop you from grabbing your pitchfork with intent to use it.
Belief in those systems is a finite resource.
You are all talking about Abe’s assassination, but forgetting this happened
That act weakened the Japanese Socialist party (center-left), emboldened the far-right, caused copycats and ensured the current party stayed in power for most of the twentieth century.
That’s not to say that Asanuma was a scummy maoist and had forced his party to support the terrible war in Asia.
I think you’ll see plenty of attempts after this, some inspired by it and others in retaliation. Fun times for the US
Secret service will step up their security after this, so another attempt as close as this is unlikely
Failed attempts are enough to escalate things. And with enough attempts, some especially against smaller targets might succeed. It’s gonna get intetesting
I’m pretty sure Secret Service is well aware of this, so they will escalate their security accordingly.
The same Secret Service who left one of the only buildings in the area unsecured? Who when told there was a shooter by the crowd, ignored them? Making a lot of assumptions about competency here when that’s already directly in question.
Damn, did they hire the Secret Service from Uvalde or something?
Umm… Shouldn’t the first attempt have been unlikely? This literally proves Secret Service isn’t as competent as you believe.
Who’s that chad
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Why was he imperialist?
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Okay, so conservative and revisionist, but not imperialist. Maybe imperial-adjacent. Thanks for the deets.
I wouldn’t call him imperialist, but he repeatedly denied WW2 Japanese war crimes (in particular the Nanking massacre and the use of Korean ‘comfort women’). This is the rough equivalent of a German Chancellor denying the Holocaust.
I think that’s par for the course for Japanese politicians. A lot of them seem to categorically deny all the atrocities.
I wouldn’t call him imperialist either. I think he was a pretty decent leader for Japan. He wasn’t murdered for his politics, but because of his religious affiliation.
do you got your own spoon at least?
I think for the discussion it’d be a lot better to explain why. Makes things easier for all
the ö’s make this even more amusing, as i can’t be sure it was an accidental dick-up instead of a nordic memelord giggling themself to sleep.
The long o (oe or ö) is a sound present in north European languages, and also in many Asian languages, including Japanese.
Long o in Finnish is oo, ö is pronounced different and could also be pronounced as long öö.
Long o in Finnish is oo
That is logical and sensible. Unfortunately, oo in English is a long u, so long o has to be approximated as oe.
am Finnish, so i responded as such. for Japanese, however, you’d use ō instead. that is not an ö. ou is also acceptable.
