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  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    4 months ago

    And what would a non-vegan want to do in there?

    What’s wrong with minority views and practices creating their own spaces?

    On which, is there any non-vegan/anti-vegan thought or idea that a vegan is likely to have not heard already? How many haven’t they heard relative to the amount of decent “pro-vegan” ideas they also haven’t heard of?

    Maybe a specialised space, echo chamber even, makes sense in order to balance against the gravity of the mainstream?

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
        121·
        4 months ago

        Right. Well, I think the instance name “vegantheory.org” was doing that already, and I’m betting you drew your conclusion from the public description of the place too (and aren’t in the modlog or anything for challenging their ideas).

          • Future@mander.xyzEnglish
            82·
            4 months ago

            Veganism tends to be a religion for a lot of vegans and they drive away potential allies because the concept of harm reduction is anathema to their binary thinking. If you’re not ALL in, you’re the enemy.

            That is a strawman and a lie as vegans are always celebrating the small wins for the increased protections on animal rights.

              • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
                71·
                4 months ago

                I believe you … gate-keeping types are all over the place really.

                But vegans or the “vegan-curious” aren’t one thing or one kind of person, at least not any more. I personally have only ever had positive conversations with vegan types.

                This instance, in being insistent on not entertaining any “harm reduction” or “compromises”, makes sense though … because it’s a space for people to talk about that sort of dedicated approach.

          • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
            63·
            4 months ago

            they drive away potential allies because the concept of harm reduction is anathema to their binary thinking. If you’re not ALL in, you’re the enemy.

            I can resonate with that. But I come back to … “it’s totally ok for people to create their own spaces, especially on federated social media and especially for minority groups/ideas”.

            There are likely plenty of other spaces for “potential allies” to engage and talk about veganism if they want to, or plenty they, or you, could make on their own.

            Tacitly admitting that vegans are usually antisocial zealots. “It’s right in the name!”

            Well, they’re running their own social media platform, so I’m not sure how anti-social they are.