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schizoidman@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 11 months ago

Chinese cars are pouring into Mexico — and the U.S. is worried - Autoblog

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Four years after the United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA), Mexico and the U.S. face the prospect of cheap Chinese electric vehicles dominating a fast-growing market and undermining GM, Ford, and Tesla.
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    is it hard to… ya know… hypothetically obtain one of these cheaper, mexican imported evs? askin for a huh friend

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      No, you cant import it. They dont meet safety standards.

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        I am sick and tired of people claiming that BYD are unsafe They have crash tested better than my current vehicle.

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          hey shut up we’re in a china bad brigade

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          Car manufacturers will meet local safety standards, so a BYD sold in the EU is probably going to be safer than a BYD sold in Mexico

          Here’s an example with Peugeot

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            In this case BYD lacks a local factory and their profit margins are significant enough that they don’t maintain region-specific frame SKUs IIRC.

            FWIW the Chinese market is one of the biggest for Volvo because Chinese consumers care about (perceived) safety.

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        Gotta love American “freedom” sometimes. “Oh you can buy any car you want, well except those dirty foreign ones because checks notes they’re totally not up to our safety standards.” -_-

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          Except you know, working airbags, seat belts, fuses, a firewall (as in the sheet of metal separating the engine from the passenger compartment), working crumple zones, 5 mph bumpers, rollover protection, stuff like that

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            Do you think this is a Ford Pinto?

            Edit: given that you mention crumple zones… A Tesla Cybertruck?

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              The pinto was 40 years ago, so thats probably accurate. Makes sense china is 40 years behind.

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                And the Cybertruck was…

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                  Safer than any chinese car

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                    Don’t feed the trolls. https://youtu.be/h0Q6dBkSgkk?t=5

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        However, you can import many kei cars and trucks and people are doing it because they’re super cheap.

        https://www.eezyimport.com/importing-the-essence-of-japan-a-guide-to-bringing-kei-trucks-and-cars-to-the-usa/

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          They’re almost exclusively being imported as antique vehicles. I don’t think you’re going to find a cheap, useful, 25-year old Chinese EV, but all the power to you!

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            They sure look cheap to me:

            https://boekiusa.com/inventory/new-jersey/paterson/all-vehicles/available

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              None of those are Chinese EVs. I was pointing out that the “anique import loophole” doesn’t apply to Chinese EVs (at least for another couple decades).

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                Sorry, missed the EV part. True, although there is a Japanese kei EV.

                Not sure if you can import it or what the price is though.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sakura

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                  I think you missed the point again. That’s only 2 years old. They need to be 25+ to be easily imported into the US. Otherwise you’ll pay tariffs and they’d be subjected to the same safety tests required for new vehicles sold in America. It’s only because they’re 25+ years old that they aren’t subjected to the standard rules on imports.

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                    That would be why I said I wasn’t sure if you could import it.

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              Removed by mod

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          Depends on the state. Several are banning 25 year old kei trucks so they wouldn’t outcompete Ford’s latest offering of gas guzzling $80,000 kid-crushing F-150s.

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        What if we elect Trump and he gets rid of safety standards, could we import it then?

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          No cause he’s also gonna ban evs

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          Maybe if he forgets half the shit he’s said that directly contradicts the other half, and doesn’t try to nuke a hurricane over Mexico.

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          You would have go back at least 50 years in safety standards, and thats a little much even if the president had full congressional support behind him

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      If you want yourself or your house to burn in a lítium battery fire, then sure, go for it.

      Edit: I’m going to tag this post of mine and come back in a few years when all the stories about banning Chinese-made EVs come out because of safety issues. See you all in a couple years.

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        Source?

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          China bad, what other source do you need?

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          https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1013638

          https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/bev-are-exploding-all-over-china.299443/

          https://energytrend.com/news/20221018-30074.html

          https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101781161/there-are-about-2000-fires-in-more-than-800000-electric-vehicle-related-enterprises-in-china-every-year

          https://youtube.com/watch?v=-B5sIm_JmB4

          https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/chinese-evs-become-virtually-uninsurable-in-the-uk-says-report/

          https://www.qatar-tribune.com/article/113062/business/failure-of-evs-in-china-calls-for-more-research

          https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/27/18761067/nio-es8-electric-suv-recall-battery-fires-china

          Keep in mind that negative stories from China (anything that casts China itself or people/companies within China) are heavily and aggressively censored.

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            lmao you don’t even want to know about Tesla battery fires I take it?

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              lmao I have a very strong disdain for Tesla.

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                It’s an EV problem, not a China problem… Unfortunately

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                  It’s both. China’s lack of regulations make a bad thing worse.

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                    But we’re not in china. If they want to sell here, they have to adher to OUR regulations. I don’t understand why you’re referring to China’s regulations all the time. They are irrelevant.

                    Besides, I can think of countless Tesla incidents just our of my head where teslas started burning or teslas were driving into random white trucks with Autopilot for no apparent reason.

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