• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    “Super nuanced political opinions” such as being against an active genocide lol.

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        5 months ago

        Trump isn’t in charge right now. There is a genocide happening right now. Trump has nothing to do with that. How can you not want to pressure the guy that has the power right now to do something?

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          No one said anything about not pressuring the guy, but right now isn’t the time to be divisive. The US is literally on the brink of becoming a fascist theocracy, and Biden is the only one who can stop it.

          It sucks that he’s our only option, but that’s life.

          Shit on him all you want after the election, but right now isn’t the time. The alternative is a guy who supports nuking Gaza.

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            What pressure are you putting on the guy? Guaranteeing him your vote is the opposite of pressure. It reads as endorsement or at least tacit approval of his policies. Assuming Biden actually cares to win the election, the best thing to do is threaten to withhold your vote. He still has five months to change voters minds. Let him see the polling, let his campaign see the mood on social media. Genocide is a red line, and it’s a low fucking bar.

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            but right now isn’t the time to be divisive

            It’s never the time, and all criticism is seen as divisive by people who can’t abide critics.

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            5 months ago

            What Trump would do is an irrelevant question right now. This isn’t about the future, it is about the present.

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              So you think Trump would oppose the genocide

              This was the question. It’s either yes or no.

              Edit: I also find it hilarious that to you, his stance on Gaza is irrelevant when he is, in fact, running for president. Gotta love sticking your head in the sand so your own narrative makes sense.

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                And it is irrelevant either way. Do you think Trump has power to end this genocide right now? Yes or no?

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                  Again, avoiding the question. I’ll answer when you do. It’s not that hard, but thanks for telling me all I need to know, champ.

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                    Sorry if I am more concerned with the ongoing genocide supported by the current fascist in power, than with the potential continuation of the same genocide by the next fascist who may come to power.

                    You don’t really need my answer, and I don’t really need yours either.

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      Yep- sorry nobody cares what you think deep down inside, snowflake. Only matters how you vote. Biden or Trump- plus all the downballot stuff you don’t care enough to think about. Pitch a hissy fit if you want but that’s your reality.

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        sorry nobody cares what you think deep down inside, snowflake.

        I’m not usually a “both sides” kinda guy, but you sound exactly like a MAGAt.

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        Ok gee golly mister, you convinced me to support a war criminal! I’m sure he’ll win now that you’ve secured my support :)

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          Of course you won’t vote for Biden. Choosing the lesser evil in an evil world takes a lot of strength and you’re obviously very weak.

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            Wait, I thought Biden was good, actually. Isn’t he like our best president since FDR or something? Now you’re telling me he’s evil??

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              Yeah he’s evil as Knievel, Jumps busses and shit. But you can’t vote anyway so doesn’t matter.

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                  I think you illustrate my point.

                  Grown ups know that life is full of hard choices and that it’s pretty damned rare that you get everything you want in any situation. We also tend to understand that there are many things that we cannot change or can only change a little, sometimes over a long period of time.

                  Choosing not to choose or “standing on principal” is often counter-productive.

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                    Some principles ought to be inflexible. It’s kind of the definition of a principle. I know what compromise is, and I know right from wrong. It’s wrong to compromise on certain things. If growing up means forgetting that, then miss me with growing up.

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                    Grown ups know that life is full of hard choices and that it’s pretty damned rare that you get everything you want in any situation.

                    The last time centrists didn’t get literally everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected.