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minus-squareViking_Hippie@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4arrow-down4·6 个月前There are differences, yes, but they’re built on the same foundation and as such by definition NOT fundamentally different.
minus-squareCowbee [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down2·6 个月前They don’t have the same foundation. Aristocrat/serf dynamics are entirely different from Bourgeois/Proletarian relations. Reading Marx would help you.
minus-squareViking_Hippie@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down5·6 个月前 Aristocrat/serf dynamics are entirely different from Bourgeois/Proletarian relations. They most certainly aren’t. Reading Marx would help you. I have. Guess what: he wasn’t right about everything.
minus-squareCowbee [he/him]@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4·6 个月前Serfs have a certified existence, they do not sell their labor in a market. They work their land, without participating in Capitalism. Proletarians do not have a certified existence. They compete against each other in a labor market. The difference is stark despite both being working classes.
There are differences, yes, but they’re built on the same foundation and as such by definition NOT fundamentally different.
They don’t have the same foundation. Aristocrat/serf dynamics are entirely different from Bourgeois/Proletarian relations.
Reading Marx would help you.
They most certainly aren’t.
I have. Guess what: he wasn’t right about everything.
Serfs have a certified existence, they do not sell their labor in a market. They work their land, without participating in Capitalism.
Proletarians do not have a certified existence. They compete against each other in a labor market.
The difference is stark despite both being working classes.