How would you go about doing this? As an example, if you loaned someone 167 monero to buy a car and expect them to pay you back in 7 years like a bank does you would be requesting 167xmr*6.02% (to counter xmr inflation) for a total of 177.053xmr. 177.053xmr/84 (months in 7 years) would be 2.107xmr a month. At the moment that is fine, but if the usd price of monero rises and the borrower is being paid in usd then they are going to default and you will loose the xmr. The only way I could see to counteract this would be to lower the Monero payments per month, but then that would take even longer to be repaid.

    • shortwavesurferOPEnglish
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      8 months ago

      But if you pay out Monero for the loan and then you peg it to Fiat and they pay you back in Monero with that amount of Fiat, then you will lose Monero as the price increases. So you will turn say 177 Monero into say 100 Monero. That is something you don’t want to do.

      • frogmint@beehaw.org
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        8 months ago

        Well you don’t want to lose Monero and you don’t want to lose fiat, but you can’t have both. XMR isn’t a stablecoin.

        If it matters more to you that you get your XMR back, then require XMR payments. You need to include the XMR volatility as part of the interest rate calculation.

        If it matters more that you get your fiat back, then require fiat-equivalent in XMR payments.

        Or, demand you get either XMR or fiat back, whichever is higher. But I don’t think a borrower would like this. Tesla did this when they let you pay in BTC; Tesla reserved the right to refund you in whichever currency was cheaper. For the consumer, it a bad deal.

        • shortwavesurferOPEnglish
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          8 months ago

          I don’t care if I lose Fiat, but I do not want to lose Monero.

          • frogmint@beehaw.org
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            8 months ago

            Then you need it factored into the interest rate you decide upon that volatility may cause the price of XMR to get so high that your debtor would rather default than pay the debt.

        • shortwavesurferOPEnglish
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          8 months ago

          What do you mean you’d be left with more value? If I loan a hundred and seventy-seven Monero and I only get a hundred Monero back, I am down value. I want the loan amount denominated in Monero and I want the loan payments to be repaid in Monero. I don’t want somebody to tell me I need to borrow a hundred thousand dollars. I want somebody to tell me I want to borrow a hundred and seventy seven Monero.

            • shortwavesurferOPEnglish
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              8 months ago

              Oh, I think I see the disconnect. I want the Monero, not the dollars. So, even in that scenario where I lose $50, I don’t care, because I now have 200 Monero, which is what I wanted.

              Edit: I am not after the number of dollars to go up. I am after the number of Monero to go up. I want to see my wallet balance increase from 100 Monero to 200 Monero and don’t give a fuck about the US dollar price.