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A Bill Gates-backed clean energy player is hoping to build dozens of nuclear reactors in the UK and will compete with global rivals.

Bill Gates-backed nuclear contender Terra Power aims to build dozens of UK reactors::A Bill Gates-backed clean energy player is hoping to build dozens of nuclear reactors in the UK and will compete with global rivals.

  • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
    811·
    1 year ago

    Really?

    The country that has extremely old reactors, that need to shut down, because the rivers got too hot from the cooling water?

    The country that spend billions on building a single new reactor?

      • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
        611·
        1 year ago

        And expensive in the long run, more expensive than other forms of power. And they take forever to build.

        How is that helping again? The reactors going online in 20 years won’t help against climate change.

        • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
          111·
          1 year ago

          Lol you better strap on buddy cuz we’re gonna be fighting climate change for a lot longer than 20 years

          • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
            64·
            1 year ago

            And the fight has to start for good as soon as possible.

            Even ignoring costs, we can’t wait 20, 30 years for all the reactors coming online. Until then it’s too late to mitigate at least the worst effects.

            All the renewables are right there. Scalable, cheap, easy to deploy. Why not use them? Why the pipe dreams?

            • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyzEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              All forms of energy have issues. For hydropower, you have a limited number of rivers you can dam up, and a limited amount of rainfall in a year (I live in Norway, we talk about water levels in the reservoirs every winter). For wind, it’s about the fluctuations and the available area to build in (most of Europe is either city or farmland, can’t build windmills everywhere). For solar, fluctuations are the biggest issue. For offshore wind, we’re just now starting to see that wind farms of a significant size can substantially impact the weather on nearby coastlines.

              The point is: We need to diversify our energy mix in such a way that we mitigate as many of these issues as possible. Nuclear takes a long time to build, but we’re going to need even more energy in 20-50 years than we do now. Just imagine how much more electricity we need to produce to replace fossil fuels in the transportation sector alone.

              Building nuclear does not mean we stop building renewables, or that we build less of them. It means that we build nuclear in addition to renewables. In the short run (20-30 years) we are going to need a whole lot of renewables very fast. If we start building nuclear now, those reactors can come online and start taking some of the load in 20-30 years. We have to plan for both the long and short term at the same time.

              • DerGottesknecht@feddit.deEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Building nuclear does not mean we stop building renewables, or that we build less of them.

                Money as a finite resource as of now, so money spent on nuclear is not spent on renewables and storage. And that is the number 1 priority if we want to be carbon neutral as fast as possible. And if we manage to transition to an all renewable energy system and continue to need even more energy we can hopefully start with fusion in 20 years. But in the short term i would only invest in renewables.

                • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Money is a finite resource as of now

                  Most renewable energy projects are not larger than that private entities can invest and build them, as they are assumed to be profitable. Nuclear requires large, governmental investments. Both can be funded if we push the private sector by squeezing out fossil fuels with regulation and forcing them to invest in renewables.

                  If (…) we continue to need even more energy we can hopefully start with fusion in 20 years.

                  The problem with starting with fusion in 20 years is twofold:

                  1: It assumes we will have viable, large scale fusion reactors developed within 20 years. Thats a big if.

                  2: If we start in 20 years, we won’t have them until 30-40 years from now.

                  Thats why we have to start planning now for exactly the case you are talking about: A situation 20 years from now when we have transitioned mostly to renewables, but still need more energy. That is a very likely future, which is why we need to build nuclear now, so that we have it in 20 years, when we will need it.

                  • DerGottesknecht@feddit.deEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    If the large governmental investments go into renewables and storage we have more energy faster.

                    Also nuclear doesn’t play nice with a energy network with a large fluctuating renewable part. As the running cost of a nuclear plant is minimal compared to the investment there is a huge incentive to let a nuclear plant run at max output all the time, thereby blocking the grid for renewables.

          • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
            22·
            1 year ago

            Solar and wind are way cheaper. Why would any sane person choose the more expensive option?

            BTW: you obviously misinterpreted my point. Either intentionally, then you are dishonest, or you are so preoccupied with proving your (moot) point, that you read what you hoped to read.